On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:27:06 +0100
"Recliner" wrote:
enough of a sucker to give out a credit/debit card PIN over the
internet then you're really f**ked.

Online banking requires it but I don't know about other sorts of
online transations - I don't do mail order.

No, you don't need your card PIN for on-line banking -- you have a
different password for that (with probably more than 4 characters).

You're right, I was thinking of the telephone/online banking PIN. My bank
requires that plus a passphrase.

B2003