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Old September 4th 09, 03:18 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default OT - concrete effect


"Bruce" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:39:21 +0100, "michael adams"
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"Bruce" wrote in message

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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:52:14 GMT, "Richard J."
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Basil Jet wrote on 04 September
2009 02:41:35 ...
What's this effect called?



http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...17&layer=c&cbl

l=51.511071,-0.107968&panoid=4ei3g9oz7njPRuf2h6AyBg&cbp=12,358. 15,,3,4.76



http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...=16&layer=c&cb

ll=51.510959,-0.111906&panoid=tub4InydM9YD-wxkYOGmeg&cbp=12,200.99,,3,2.6

I think London would look better if concrete structures such as the
Hammersmith flyover used this effect, but I don't know how expensive it
would be.

I think the Hammersmith Flyover is one of the best looking concrete
viaducts, and wouldn't be improved by that sort of treatment (and I
don't know what it's called).



http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...XJjAo2hmTbOlgp

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bw978fQ&cbp=12,41.4,,0,-3.45&ll=51.491057,-0.225048&spn=0,359.958801&z=15


The effect in Basil Jet's linked images is called "stucco" and it is a
style of rendering, not a concrete finish.


It's cut stone and has nothing to do with concrete at all.

The style is rustication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rustication_(architecture)



You must have much better eyesight than mine; that decorative feature
is very common as a finish to stucco, but if you are absolutely
certain ...


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The Victoria Embankment is faced entirely in grey granite. Both the
embankment itself and most of the buildings facing.

Even without the benefit of eyesight even a blind man could feel
the difference between granite and stucco.


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The supports of the Hammersmith flyover were cast on site using wooden
shuttering. Only the decking supporting the roadway used precast sections.



The piers (you can call them supports if you wish) were clearly cast
in-situ but the vast majority of the structure was precast,
pre-stressed post-tensioned reinforced concrete.


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The features being discussed, the outline of the shuttering formwork and the
grain of the wood are found solely in the supports. The OP was claiming this to
be a feature of the pre-cast sections when clearly it isn't.

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The preservation of the wooden texture of the shuttering as a design element
is a feature of much New Brutalist architecture. And first really came to national
prominence\notoriety in the UK with completion of the the National Theatre
Hayward Gallery complex on the South Bank



What's that I hear? Oh, it's the sound of an axe being ground. ;-)



By Big-Ears and friends maybe. Not by me. An even better example of form-work vaulting
is to be found under the Edgware Road flyover.


michael adams

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