On 2009-09-09 17:17:24 +0100, Mizter T said:


On Sep 9, 4:55 pm, Peter Campbell Smith
wrote:

Can anyone help me understand this
(from http://www.senior-railcard.co.uk/)?

* All Senior Railcard holders will get 1/3 off Anytime Day Travelcar
ds
(Zones 1 - 6) for journeys starting outside the London Travelcard zones.
* Existing Railcard conditions apply and discounts will be subject to
any time restrictions that apply to the Railcard, for instance restrictio
ns
on travel on week day mornings in the London & South East area.

An Anytime Day Travelcard is one valid at peak (and off-peak) times, unli
ke
the cheaper Off-Peak one. So if I want to travel at peak time, say
starting at 8am, the first bullet point seems to suggest I get a discount
.

But the second one says that the discount is subject to the usual time
restrictions, which a "However, you won’t be able to enjoy a Railcar
d
discount when travelling peak time Monday to Friday within London and the
South East, including all South West Trains services to and from London
Waterloo."

So that seems to say that I can buy a discounted Anytime Day Travelcard,
but I can only use it off-peak. Why would I want to do that? Is there
some part of the day that is off-peak for the London and South East
restriction, but still peak from a Travelcard point of view?


First Capital Connect and NXEA both have evening restrictions on the
return portions of off-peak tickets for trains leaving London during
the evening rush - these restrictions apply both to Off-Peak Day
Returns and also outboundary Travelcards.

Therefore if one wanted to return during these times, one could buy a
Railcard-discounted Anytime Travelcard. (Or alternatively side step
the restrictions!)

FCC's information page on their restrictions is he
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...iCmsPageId=134

NXEA has some information about the restrictions he
http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia..._types/off_pea
k_tickets
or via http://tinyurl.com/NXEA-off-peak-tickets


FGW also have some similar-ish restrictions, but I'm afraid they
always confuse me somewhat - for example, you can make use of Turbo
train services (i.e. what was Thames Trains then FGWL) but not HSTs
(i.e. 'Intercity' services). Unfortunately FGW don't provide any
straightforward information on their website (or in any leaflets) that
clarifies the situation, which is IMO a bit stupid.

Some relatives travelled as a group to London (and back!) a couple of
months ago on off-peak tickets and were given a printed (or possibly
photocopied) list of the trains they could use to return to Reading in
the evening peak by the clerk at the ticket office. So such a document
does exist, even if it is a local initiative.
--
Robert