Graham Harrison wrote on 16
September 2009 16:59:33 ...
"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
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"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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Is there a reason why this is not just billed as part of the Underground,
especially since it will soon have some deep tube bits? If the
Underground can include the Chesham branch, why not the North London
Line? Do staff at Gospel Oak station get paid less than staff at Chesham,
in which case keeping the Overground separate from the Underground is a
divide-and-conquer wheeze against the rail workers?


What is now called the "Overground" is actually part of "British Rail".
The government put those lines out to tender and "Overground" won it.

No, the government decided to delegate management responsibility for
these lines to TfL.

Therefore, it's not part of Tfl as such - for instance it works under
National Rail rules/signalling and passenger terms/conditions not LU.

It is part of TfL in the same way that the DLR is part of TfL. The
signalling rules are irrelevant; there are parts of LU that operate
under Network Rail signalling. Yes, the conditions of carriage are
those for National Rail - so what?

And to make matters more complicated although (as I understand it) the
franchise is let to Tfl it's actually run for them by London Overground Rail
Operations Ltd (LOROL) which is owned half by Hong Kong Mass Transit Railway
and DB Regio.

It's not a franchise. The London Rail Concession is an agreement
between DfT and TfL under which TfL is responsible for managing services
on the London Overground lines. TfL have contracted LOROL to operate
the trains and stations.

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Richard J.
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