Colin McKenzie wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:13:43 +0100, Tom Barry
wrote:
Usable capacities used by TfL for modelling the debendifications are
85 (double decker), 70 (single decker) and 120 (bendy). The placarded
capacities are similarly excessive for the new 521/507 non-bendies,
which from me counting people onto them leave Waterloo with about 60
on board, despite having a placarded capacity somewhat higher. It's
assumed the maximum feasible load is somewhat lower, not least because
with a bus along every couple of minutes the choice of the person at
the front of the queue is a minute or two waiting followed by a seat,
or getting on now and standing.

This suggests that the figures have been loaded to make a stronger case
for eliminating Routemasters. Their official maximum capacity gave all
but 5 people a seat - and you could fit well over 5 standing downstairs
if the conductor failed to prevent it.


Um, those are the figures used in 2008, under Boris. Are you suggesting
he loaded the figures to make a case for eliminating Routemasters?

IIRC I've read some figures (on the DMS, possibly) saying that the
standing capacity was 21 when driver-only and 5 when crewed.

No comments on how the £20m annual cost of bendy replacement looks
absolutely scandalous when Boris is trying to slash the bus subsidy by
£150m annually?

Tom