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Old January 3rd 04, 12:29 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Unique pedestrian crossing in Burnt Oak

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in message ...
"John Rowland" typed


Hi all,


I have often seen footage of foreign crossroads with 2 diagonal pedestrian
crossings in addition to the 4 orthogonal crossings we usually have here in
Britain. Today I found a crossroads with all six crossings just east of
Burnt Oak tube station in Northwest London. According to the nearest person
I could accost, it's been like that for about 2 or 3 years. Is this the only
one in Britain? It seems to have been there too long to be a trial.


The junction of Watling Avenue, Orange Hill Road & Gervase Road, I
presume. I think I've seen something similar in the north of England
(possibly Leeds Briggate) BICBW.


There are a few more (can't remember where off-hand). One reason why
they're not seen more often is that the diagonal crossing distance is
longer, therefore more time has to be given for pedestrians to clear
the crossing. I am aware of examples where a diagonal crossing has
been considered but rejected because this additional crossing time
would result in unacceptable traffic queues. Obviously this means the
(orthagonal) pedestrian crossing route is longer - but who cares about
them!