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Boris Magic Wonder Bus builder announced
On Dec 28, 5:17*pm, John B wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:28*pm, Barry Salter wrote: John B wrote: (CUE: pointless anecdotes of "I got on the 29 and only saw 4 people touching in". Well, yes - the others have Travelcards or bus passes). Talking of people not touching in, TfL are changing the Conditions of Carriage from 2nd January such that *ALL* Oyster holders *MUST* touch in (and out where appropriate) or be liable to a Penalty Fare, even if they have a valid Season Ticket loaded onto their Oyster! New Conditions of Carriage can be found at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/899.aspx and the relevant conditions are 6.6.1 for LU, Overground and National Rail, and 6.6.7 for Buses. ...although interestingly, that strongly implies (to the extent that any court would support) that Travelcard holders will only be liable to a penalty fare if they fail to touch in on buses. While 6.6.1 says that Travelcard holders are supposed to touch in on LU/LO/NR, it doesn't specify any sanctions for people who don't - whereas 6.6.4 mentions explicit sanctions for Travelcard holders who don't use OEPs on NR, 6.6.7 mentions explicit sanctions for Travelcard holders who don't touch in on buses, and 6.7.3 mentions explicit sanctions for PAYG users who don't touch in on LU/LO/DLR. I notice that the wording is suitably obscure about the use of OEP on the existing NR routes which accept PAYG. First section 6.6.4 says that you MUST have an OEP if travelling outside your travelcard validity on NR, but then says that you SHOULD have an OEP if using one of the existing PAYG routes (those mentioned in section A1). I had understood that if, for example, I wished to travel to Watford Junction on a London Midland service, I wouldn't need an OEP, as the PAYG rules to Watford Junction would not be changing from the current situation. |
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