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In message , at 06:29:39
on Sun, 10 Jan 2010, remarked: However, you have now gained the possibility of doing the same journey, step-free, using the Piccadilly Line. Not if the reason for wanting it step free is because I have my bicycle with me! Won't it fit in the lift? (Although to some extent this simply demonstrates that using a bike on public transport simply doesn't scale) -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote on 10 January 2010 14:15:24 ...
In message , at 06:29:39 on Sun, 10 Jan 2010, remarked: However, you have now gained the possibility of doing the same journey, step-free, using the Piccadilly Line. Not if the reason for wanting it step free is because I have my bicycle with me! Won't it fit in the lift? (Although to some extent this simply demonstrates that using a bike on public transport simply doesn't scale) Unfolded bikes aren't allowed on tunnelled sections of the deep tube lines. I believe this is because they would impede an evacuation from a train stuck in a tunnel. The leaflet on the "new extended Circle line" says, regarding changing at Edgware Road, "you can avoid the footbridge as cross-platform interchange is available in both directions: eastbound ... between platform 2 (Circle line) and platform 1; westbound ... between platform 4 and platform 3 (District line)." That sounds to me like an assured step-free route. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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On 10 Jan, 14:41, "Richard J." wrote:
Roland Perry wrote on 10 January 2010 14:15:24 ... In message , at 06:29:39 on Sun, 10 Jan 2010, remarked: However, you have now gained the possibility of doing the same journey, step-free, using the Piccadilly Line. Not if the reason for wanting it step free is because I have my bicycle with me! Won't it fit in the lift? (Although to some extent this simply demonstrates that using a bike on public transport simply doesn't scale) Unfolded bikes aren't allowed on tunnelled sections of the deep tube lines. *I believe this is because they would impede an evacuation from a train stuck in a tunnel. The leaflet on the "new extended Circle line" says, regarding changing at Edgware Road, "you can avoid the footbridge as cross-platform interchange is available in both directions: eastbound ... between platform 2 (Circle line) and platform 1; westbound ... between platform 4 and platform 3 (District line)." *That sounds to me like an assured step-free route. There is never a way of assuring that a train won't be signalled into platform 3 at the last minute. Anyway, if it really is running well, I may have to be true to my word and eat my dinner. However, there haven't exactly been any normal weeks since the service was introduced, so let's wait and see. |
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14:41:32 on Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Richard J. remarked: Unfolded bikes aren't allowed on tunnelled sections of the deep tube lines. I believe this is because they would impede an evacuation from a train stuck in a tunnel. Fair enough. The leaflet on the "new extended Circle line" says, regarding changing at Edgware Road, "you can avoid the footbridge as cross-platform interchange is available in both directions: eastbound ... between platform 2 (Circle line) and platform 1; westbound ... between platform 4 and platform 3 (District line)." That sounds to me like an assured step-free route. I suppose that if you ended up on 3 or 4 having terminated from the Kensington direction, you could always catch the next Hammersmith train and reverse at Paddington (island platform iirc). -- Roland Perry |
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On 10 Jan, 16:05, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:41:32 on Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Richard J. remarked: Unfolded bikes aren't allowed on tunnelled sections of the deep tube lines. *I believe this is because they would impede an evacuation from a train stuck in a tunnel. Fair enough. The leaflet on the "new extended Circle line" says, regarding changing at Edgware Road, "you can avoid the footbridge as cross-platform interchange is available in both directions: eastbound ... between platform 2 (Circle line) and platform 1; westbound ... between platform 4 and platform 3 (District line)." *That sounds to me like an assured step-free route. I suppose that if you ended up on 3 or 4 having terminated from the Kensington direction, you could always catch the next Hammersmith train and reverse at Paddington (island platform iirc). If you start going that far, there are step-free changes on all routes as long as every line has at least one step-free change to another and enough of them have two. This is probably the case. So, problem solved (at least by the usual definition here) and anyone who finds it inconvenient is an idiot who ought to live somewhere else. |
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:15:24 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: Won't it fit in the lift? (Although to some extent this simply demonstrates that using a bike on public transport simply doesn't scale) In Central London I'd just ride it. Probably quicker than the glacially slow sub-surface lines. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:41:28 -0800 (PST), MIG
wrote: If you start going that far, there are step-free changes on all routes as long as every line has at least one step-free change to another and enough of them have two. This is probably the case. So, problem solved (at least by the usual definition here) and anyone who finds it inconvenient is an idiot who ought to live somewhere else. That's a bit extreme. The Circle Line had a problem of atrocious punctuality, day in day out. This is an attempt to solve it. What, OOI, would be your suggestion to prevent the situation that occurred before, e.g. half hour gaps in service followed by 4 trains together? People wouldn't like trains sitting at Aldgate for 20 minutes' recovery time (the only other place where it would really make sense to hold them as they're completely out of the way there). Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Neil Williams wrote:
What, OOI, would be your suggestion to prevent the situation that occurred before, e.g. half hour gaps in service followed by 4 trains together? Transfer the Hammersmith branch to Crossrail. Failing that, turn it into a GW branch that terminates at Paddington. You will still need recovery waits at Aldgate, but they should be smaller without the delays emanating from Praed Street. tom -- Cthulu saves! (so he can eat you later) |
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, at 08:41:28 on Sun, 10 Jan 2010, MIG remarked: I suppose that if you ended up on 3 or 4 having terminated from the Kensington direction, you could always catch the next Hammersmith train and reverse at Paddington (island platform iirc). If you start going that far, It's only one stop - and if I had a couple of big suitcases it would be well worth it. there are step-free changes on all routes as long as every line has at least one step-free change to another and enough of them have two. This is probably the case. So, problem solved (at least by the usual definition here) and anyone who finds it inconvenient is an idiot who ought to live somewhere else. That's "extreme stepless", which has a place, but not in this thread. -- Roland Perry |
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