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Article here on BBC website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8465383.stm

and programme on Radio 4 this evening at 2000.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pxk9w

All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.
Might be worth a listen.

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:06:53 -0800 (PST) someone who may be plcd1
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All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.


The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to hold
him to account.




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In message , at 14:08:51 on
Mon, 18 Jan 2010, David Hansen
remarked:
All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.


The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to hold
him to account.


Maybe we shouldn't vote for him in the general election, then?
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:27:32 +0000 someone who may be Roland Perry
wrote this:-

All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.


The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to hold
him to account.


Maybe we shouldn't vote for him in the general election, then?


That would be difficult as he has announced he is standing down from
the Westminster parliament and I don't think he intends to give
people the opportunity to vote for him in another arena.

I did come up with the quote though, according to Wikipedia:

"Integrated transport policy

"On coming to office, Prescott pursued an integrated public
transport policy. On 6 June 1997, he said: "I will have failed if in
five years time there are not...far fewer journeys by car. It's a
tall order but I urge you to hold me to it."[12] However, by June
2002, car traffic was up by 7%. This prompted Friends of the Earth’s
Tony Bosworth to say "By its own test, Government transport policy
has failed".[13]"




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On 18 Jan, 14:57, David Hansen
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:27:32 +0000 someone who may be Roland Perry
wrote this:-

All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.


The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to hold
him to account.


Maybe we shouldn't vote for him in the general election, then?


That would be difficult as he has announced he is standing down from
the Westminster parliament and I don't think he intends to give
people the opportunity to vote for him in another arena.

I did come up with the quote though, according to Wikipedia:

"Integrated transport policy

"On coming to office, Prescott pursued an integrated public
transport policy. On 6 June 1997, he said: "I will have failed if in
five years time there are not...far fewer journeys by car. It's a
tall order but I urge you to hold me to it."[12] However, by June
2002, car traffic was up by 7%. This prompted Friends of the Earth’s
Tony Bosworth to say "By its own test, Government transport policy
has failed".[13]"

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But will the electorate vote NuLab back into office again? Considerng
that he made this as a *promise*, do we vote for failed politicians?

McKevvy


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McKevvy wrote:
On 18 Jan, 14:57, David Hansen
wrote:

I did come up with the quote though, according to Wikipedia:

"Integrated transport policy

"On coming to office, Prescott pursued an integrated public
transport policy. On 6 June 1997, he said: "I will have failed if in
five years time there are not...far fewer journeys by car. It's a
tall order but I urge you to hold me to it."[12] However, by June
2002, car traffic was up by 7%. This prompted Friends of the Earth’s
Tony Bosworth to say "By its own test, Government transport policy
has failed".[13]"


But will the electorate vote NuLab back into office again? Considerng
that he made this as a *promise*, do we vote for failed politicians?


If "we" means the Hull East people in 2005, yes we do.

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"McKevvy" wrote in message
...
On 18 Jan, 14:57, David Hansen
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:27:32 +0000 someone who may be Roland Perry
wrote this:-

All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.


The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to hold
him to account.


Maybe we shouldn't vote for him in the general election, then?


That would be difficult as he has announced he is standing down from
the Westminster parliament and I don't think he intends to give
people the opportunity to vote for him in another arena.

I did come up with the quote though, according to Wikipedia:

"Integrated transport policy

"On coming to office, Prescott pursued an integrated public
transport policy. On 6 June 1997, he said: "I will have failed if in
five years time there are not...far fewer journeys by car. It's a
tall order but I urge you to hold me to it."[12] However, by June
2002, car traffic was up by 7%. This prompted Friends of the Earth's
Tony Bosworth to say "By its own test, Government transport policy
has failed".[13]"

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54


But will the electorate vote NuLab back into office again? Considerng
that he made this as a *promise*, do we vote for failed politicians?

I don't, but people keep voting for David Blunkett in Sheffield.

Peter Fox


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In message , at 14:57:53 on
Mon, 18 Jan 2010, David Hansen
remarked:
All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.

The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to hold
him to account.


Maybe we shouldn't vote for him in the general election, then?


That would be difficult as he has announced he is standing down from
the Westminster parliament and I don't think he intends to give
people the opportunity to vote for him in another arena.


Exactly; so any promise that he might be held to account is empty.
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message

In message , at 14:57:53
on Mon, 18 Jan 2010, David Hansen
remarked:
All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.

The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to
hold him to account.

Maybe we shouldn't vote for him in the general election, then?


That would be difficult as he has announced he is standing down from
the Westminster parliament and I don't think he intends to give
people the opportunity to vote for him in another arena.


Exactly; so any promise that he might be held to account is empty.


Of course, Mrs Prescott is confidently expecting to become Lady Prescott
pretty soon...


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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:57:53 +0000, David Hansen
mangled uncounted electrons
thus:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:27:32 +0000 someone who may be Roland Perry
wrote this:-

All about why Mr Prescott's 10 year transport plan didn't happen.

The plan where he told us that it was a promise, and we were to hold
him to account.


Maybe we shouldn't vote for him in the general election, then?


That would be difficult as he has announced he is standing down from
the Westminster parliament and I don't think he intends to give
people the opportunity to vote for him in another arena.

I did come up with the quote though, according to Wikipedia:

"Integrated transport policy

"On coming to office, Prescott pursued an integrated public
transport policy. On 6 June 1997, he said: "I will have failed if in
five years time there are not...far fewer journeys by car. It's a
tall order but I urge you to hold me to it."[12] However, by June
2002, car traffic was up by 7%. This prompted Friends of the Earth’s
Tony Bosworth to say "By its own test, Government transport policy
has failed".[13]"


He should have asked Jim Hacker - who (after receiving the
assistance of his officials) learned very quickly that an
integrated transport policy can't be done...

Martin D. Pay
I work with someone who would rather spend 55 minutes (his own
estimation) in a car each morning and evening to get to and from
work than walk a half-mile to his local station and catch a train
for a 15-minute journey...


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