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I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places
are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from either
side of the road?

--
John Ray

Same Destination, Opposite Direction
 

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:55:15 +0000
John Ray wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places
are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from either
side of the road?

There are probably a few bus routes that do circular trips around housing
estates or hospital grounds before continuing on their way. Can't think
of any offhand in london though. Theres a few routes down in Redhill that
do it however.

B2003

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wrote in message

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:55:15 +0000
John Ray wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway, was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many
other places are there where one can catch a bus to the same
destination from either side of the road?

There are probably a few bus routes that do circular trips around
housing estates or hospital grounds before continuing on their way.
Can't think of any offhand in london though. Theres a few routes down
in Redhill that do it however.

There are a couple of local Harrow bus routes that do this by Northwick
Park station. The road they run on has parked cars on both sides, which
doesn't leave room for buses to pass, so all the buses travel east to
west on it, regardless of where they're going (even though the road
isn't one-way).

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John Ray wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway, was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many
other places are there where one can catch a bus to the same
destination from either side of the road?

The bus's destination, or yours? To get to Stockley Park from Hayes
and Harlington you can take the U5 or the 350 in opposite directions,
thought the buses don't terminate there. At 8:30 am it is fun to see
streams of people who work in Stockley Park dashing
across the road in the path of a U5 which has turned up first (and
also in the path of any other traffic that happens
that way)

However to get to Uxbridge from Stockley Park you can take the U5 or
the A10 in opposite directions, and both buses do terminate there.
Though the U5 would be a bad idea (as would the 4 in your case)

The road they run on has parked cars on both sides, which doesn't leave room for buses to pass, so all the buses travel east to west on it

This doesn't necessarily produce what the OP wanted, though from the
spider map it does look like the 114 and H9 can be used to get to
Northwick Park from either side of the road at South Harrow.

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On 29 Jan, 15:43, David wrote:
John Ray wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway, was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many
other places are there where one can catch a bus to the same
destination from either side of the road?

The bus's destination, or yours? To get to Stockley Park from Hayes
and Harlington you can take the U5 or the 350 in opposite directions,
thought the buses don't terminate there. At 8:30 am it is fun to see
streams of people who work in Stockley Park dashing
across the road in the path of a U5 which has turned up first (and
also in the path of any other traffic that happens
that way)

However to get to Uxbridge from Stockley Park you can take the U5 or
the A10 in opposite directions, and both buses do terminate there.
Though the U5 would be a bad idea (as would the 4 in your case)

The road they run on has parked cars on both sides, which doesn't leave room for buses to pass, so all the buses travel east to west on it

This doesn't necessarily produce what the OP wanted, though from the
spider map it does look like the 114 and H9 can be used to get to
Northwick Park from either side of the road at South Harrow.

From Lewisham High Street you can get a 436 to Victoria on one side of
the road and a 185 to Victoria on the other side of the road (the
bus's destination in both cases).

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"David" wrote in message


The road they run on has parked cars on both sides, which doesn't
leave room for buses to pass, so all the buses travel east to west
on it

This doesn't necessarily produce what the OP wanted, though from the
spider map it does look like the 114 and H9 can be used to get to
Northwick Park from either side of the road at South Harrow.

Agreed, it's the converse of what the OP wanted, but relates to Boltar's
comment. I was thinking of the H9 and H19 routes, which both serve
Northwick Park Underground station, at stops on the same side of
Northwick Avenue, whether they're going to or from Harrow bus station.

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John Ray wrote

I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places

are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from
either
side of the road?

Disregarding the reverse case (a teacup with opposite destinations at
the same stop), how about Esher, Surrey which has three routes to
Kingston leaving from three different stops - 218/471 and K3 on opposte
sides of Portsmouth Road and the 515 turning off first toward Esher
Green.

Or Green Lane Shepperton, Surrey where route 555 and 218 to
Walton-on-Thames traverse in opposite directions.

--
Mike D

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Michael R N Dolbear wrote:
John Ray wrote

I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places

are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from
either
side of the road?

Disregarding the reverse case (a teacup with opposite destinations at
the same stop), how about Esher, Surrey which has three routes to
Kingston leaving from three different stops - 218/471 and K3 on opposte
sides of Portsmouth Road and the 515 turning off first toward Esher
Green.

Or Green Lane Shepperton, Surrey where route 555 and 218 to
Walton-on-Thames traverse in opposite directions.

A valid example from Harrow are the 395 Greenford to St Georges Centre
and the 140 Heathrow to Harrow Weald. They pass Northolt Station
travelling in opposite directions but both go on the Harrow Bus Station

MikeR.

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On 29/01/2010 17:09, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:
John wrote

I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places

are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from
either
side of the road?

Disregarding the reverse case (a teacup with opposite destinations at
the same stop), how about Esher, Surrey which has three routes to
Kingston leaving from three different stops - 218/471 and K3 on opposte
sides of Portsmouth Road and the 515 turning off first toward Esher
Green.

Or Green Lane Shepperton, Surrey where route 555 and 218 to
Walton-on-Thames traverse in opposite directions.

Wallington, where the 410 and 157 towards Crystal Palace stop opposite
each other.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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On 29/01/2010 15:43, David wrote:
John wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway, was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many
other places are there where one can catch a bus to the same
destination from either side of the road?

The bus's destination, or yours? To get to Stockley Park from Hayes
and Harlington you can take the U5 or the 350 in opposite directions,
thought the buses don't terminate there. At 8:30 am it is fun to see
streams of people who work in Stockley Park dashing
across the road in the path of a U5 which has turned up first (and
also in the path of any other traffic that happens
that way)

(snip)

The buses' destination. The 4 runs from Waterloo to Archway and the 17
runs from London Bridge to Archway.

--
John Ray

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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:09:44 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:55:15 +0000
John Ray wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places
are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from either
side of the road?

There are probably a few bus routes that do circular trips around housing
estates or hospital grounds before continuing on their way. Can't think
of any offhand in london though. Theres a few routes down in Redhill that
do it however.

Others have hinted at them but the H9/H10 and H18/H19 in Harrow are
circulars and simply show Harrow as the destination so at any point on
their routes there is the chance of seeing a bus to Harrow going in
opposite directions. There must also be overlaps with other buses that
reach Harrow which can create the same issue.

The R5 and R10 in Orpington will offer a similar puzzle in and around
Halstead and Cudham.

I'd also imagine the roads in and out of Woolwich also offer some
opportunity for buses to be going to the same place but in opposite
directions.

A zone 1 example, but only on a tiny stretch of road, is the Heritage 15
going to Tower Hill eastbound at Aldwych just meeting the RV1 going to
Tower Gateway as it just approaches the north end of Waterloo Bridge. As
I said a tiny overlap!

Of course it is possible to get the same bus, going to the same destination
from bus stops on opposite sides of the road to one another, and the bus is
not a circular... Anyone know which?
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change jealous to sad to reply.

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On 29/01/2010 14:09, d wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:55:15 +0000
John wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places
are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from either
side of the road?

There are probably a few bus routes that do circular trips around housing
estates or hospital grounds before continuing on their way. Can't think
of any offhand in london though. Theres a few routes down in Redhill that
do it however.

Thanks - I hadn't thought of that possibility. I was thinking more of
two different services running, at one point on their routes, in
opposite directions but terminating at the same place.

--
John Ray

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John Ray wrote:

Thanks - I hadn't thought of that possibility. I was thinking more of
two different services running, at one point on their routes, in
opposite directions but terminating at the same place.

Between Swiss Cottage and the O2 Centre, the 13 terminating at Golders Green
runs northward and the 268 terminating at Golders Green runs southward.

In New Southgate Station Road, the 221 terminating at Turnpike Lane runs
eastward and the 232 terminating at Turnpike Lane runs westward.

At Crouch End Broadway the 41 terminating at Archway runs southward and the
W5 terminating at Archway runs northward.

Heath Road in Twickenham has the 281 terminating at Hounslow running
eastward and the 110 terminating at Hounslow running westward.

I found those in about ten minutes. I imagine there are dozens or even
hundreds of examples.


--
We are the Strasbourg. Referendum is futile.

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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:24:20 GMT, "Steve Dulieu"
wrote:

Of course it is possible to get the same bus, going to the same
destination from bus stops on opposite sides of the road to one
another, and the bus is not a circular... Anyone know which?

Now it couldn't possibly be the 251 or 298 at Arnos Grove could it?

Good call. I had considered the 89 in Northend Road, Slade Green, but a
quick Streetview suggests that both the part which is used twice towards
Slade Green and the part which is used twice on the way back have bus stops
on only one side.

--
We are the Strasbourg. Referendum is futile.

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On 30 Jan, 04:22, "Basil Jet"
wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:24:20 GMT, "Steve Dulieu"
wrote:

Of course it is possible to get the same bus, going to the same
destination from bus stops on opposite sides of the road to one
another, and the bus is not a circular... Anyone know which?

Now it couldn't possibly be the 251 or 298 at Arnos Grove could it?

Good call. I had considered the 89 in Northend Road, Slade Green, but a
quick Streetview suggests that both the part which is used twice towards
Slade Green and the part which is used twice on the way back have bus stops
on only one side.


There could be a good reason to have stops on both sides, and I've got
a feeling there are. It's not an easy road to cross, and there are
two stretches that are only used by buses with one destination, but in
both directions.

(To explain to anyone not familiar, the route has to cross a barriered
dual carriageway, and it does it by going to a roundabout and back in
both directions.)

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On 2010-01-30 04:18:57 +0000, "Basil Jet"
said:



I found those in about ten minutes. I imagine there are dozens or even
hundreds of examples.

Yes. The one that immediately sprang to my mind was Southbury Road,
Enfield, where a westbound 121 and an eastbound 231 both go to Turnpike
Lane Stn.

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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:22:46 -0000, "Basil Jet"
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:24:20 GMT, "Steve Dulieu"
wrote:

Of course it is possible to get the same bus, going to the same
destination from bus stops on opposite sides of the road to one
another, and the bus is not a circular... Anyone know which?

Now it couldn't possibly be the 251 or 298 at Arnos Grove could it?

Do you know, I'd forgotten about those myself, how embarrasing...

Good call. I had considered the 89 in Northend Road, Slade Green, but a
quick Streetview suggests that both the part which is used twice towards
Slade Green and the part which is used twice on the way back have bus
stops
on only one side.

Well given where Mr Dulieu works it was a tad obvious - assuming I'm
right, of course.

In actual fact, I was thinking of the 154, comes off stand at Morden and
calls at stop "C" then runs down London Road to the roundabout, back up
London Road and calls at stop "G" which is as near to bang opposite "C" as
makes no odds, then off to West Croydon.
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change jealous to sad to reply.

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:09:03 -0000, Steve Dulieu
wrote:

In actual fact, I was thinking of the 154, comes off stand at Morden and
calls at stop "C" then runs down London Road to the roundabout, back up
London Road and calls at stop "G" which is as near to bang opposite "C"
as makes no odds, then off to West Croydon.

And then there's the 224 in Park Royal, which does a double run from Abbey
Road to Iveagh Avenue and back in both directions. There's only one stop
in Iveagh Avenue, but there are two on Twyford Abbey Road, one on each
side. So you can reach anywhere on the route, and return, without crossing
Twyford Abbey Road.

Colin McKenzie

--
No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the
population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking.
Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.

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John Ray wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination Archway,
was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many other places
are there where one can catch a bus to the same destination from either
side of the road?

Southbury Road in Enfield:

121 from Island Village westwards through to Turnpike Lane
231 from Little Park Gardens eastwards to Turnpike Lane


--
Phil Richards, London, UK
3,600+ railway photos since 1980 at:
http://europeanrail.fotopic.net
http://britishrail.fotopic.net

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On 2010-02-07 18:19:49 +0000, Phil Richards said:

John Ray wrote:
I was on a number 17 bus the other day, destination Archway. As we
passed by St. Paul's Cathedral a number 4 bus, also destination
Archway, was heading in the opposite direction. I wonder how many
other places are there where one can catch a bus to the same
destination from either side of the road?

Southbury Road in Enfield:

121 from Island Village westwards through to Turnpike Lane
231 from Little Park Gardens eastwards to Turnpike Lane

I said that on jan 30th!

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On Woolwich Road between Vanburgh Hill and East Greenwich Library,
there are buses to North Greenwich stopping on both sides, with the
129 travelling eastbound and the 422 travelling westbound.

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On 9 Feb, 17:16, Aardvark wrote:
On Woolwich Road between Vanburgh Hill and East Greenwich Library,
there are buses to North Greenwich stopping on both sides, with the
129 travelling eastbound and the 422 travelling westbound.

On Lea Bridge Road between Shernhall Street and the Bakers Arms there
are two routes which go to Leytonstone Station - The W16 travelling
westbound and the W15 travelling eastbound.

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On Feb 10, 7:30*am, Paul wrote:
On 9 Feb, 17:16, Aardvark wrote:

On Woolwich Road between Vanburgh Hill and East Greenwich Library,
there are buses to North Greenwich stopping on both sides, with the
129 travelling eastbound and the 422 travelling westbound.

On Lea Bridge Road between Shernhall Street and the Bakers Arms there
are two routes which go to Leytonstone Station - The W16 travelling
westbound and the W15 travelling eastbound.

Strictly you can also add in the 257 and W19 alongside the W15 going
east. Still hadn't thought of that particular example despite it being
local.

--
Paul C
via Google

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On 10 Feb, 07:46, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Feb 10, 7:30*am, Paul wrote:

On 9 Feb, 17:16, Aardvark wrote:

On Woolwich Road between Vanburgh Hill and East Greenwich Library,
there are buses to North Greenwich stopping on both sides, with the
129 travelling eastbound and the 422 travelling westbound.

On Lea Bridge Road between Shernhall Street and the Bakers Arms there
are two routes which go to Leytonstone Station - The W16 travelling
westbound and the W15 travelling eastbound.

Strictly you can also add in the 257 and W19 alongside the W15 going
east. Still hadn't thought of that particular example despite it being
local.

--
Paul C
via Google

Another examples local to the Walthamstow area

(a) The short stretch of Forest Road between South Countess Road and
Palmerston Road. You have the N73 travelling eastbound and the W11
travelling westbound, both terminating at Walthamstow Central.

(b) The stretch of Blackhorse Lane between Lawrence Avenue and Higham
Hill Road. You have the W15 travelling eastbound and the 158
travelling westbound, both serving Leyton High Road at the junction of
Grove Green Road. (handy for Leyton tube station)

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In article 9a7656de-bc73-4b50-a875-ba2fc41807f8
@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...
On 9 Feb, 17:16, Aardvark wrote:
On Woolwich Road between Vanburgh Hill and East Greenwich Library,
there are buses to North Greenwich stopping on both sides, with the
129 travelling eastbound and the 422 travelling westbound.

On Lea Bridge Road between Shernhall Street and the Bakers Arms there
are two routes which go to Leytonstone Station - The W16 travelling
westbound and the W15 travelling eastbound.


Yes, when I was first around here it was always 'fun' at Bakers Arms to
guess whether a 235 or 236 would arrive first for Leytonstone.