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John Ray[_3_] January 31st 10 07:20 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?

--
John Ray

Jim Brittin January 31st 10 08:25 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
In article , john0001
@REMOVETHISBITjray.org.uk.invalid says...
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?



I just took it to be a reminder to apply for the new one [which I have
done].

I still meet people who don't know about having to renew with photos.

Christopher Griffin[_2_] January 31st 10 09:04 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
On 31/01/2010 20:20, John Ray wrote:
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?

You need to go to the Post Office *now* to get the form. It takes a
couple of weeks to process now, not like the old days when it was issued
over the counter.

Richard J.[_3_] January 31st 10 10:12 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
Christopher Griffin wrote
on 31 January 2010 22:04:55 ...
On 31/01/2010 20:20, John Ray wrote:
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?


You need to go to the Post Office *now* to get the form. It takes a
couple of weeks to process now, not like the old days when it was issued
over the counter.


You can enter your details and have the completed application form
downloaded by going to
http://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/fre...cationform.htm

The official advice is to apply this week (1-6 Feb) if your surname
begins with P to Z, and for anyone else who hasn't already applied to do
so during 8-13 Feb.

The above applies to the older persons' pass. I understand they are
going to post reminders to everyone who hasn't applied for a renewal by
mid-Feb.

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

John Ray[_3_] February 1st 10 01:42 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
On 31/01/2010 22:04, Christopher Griffin wrote:
On 31/01/2010 20:20, John Ray wrote:
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?

You need to go to the Post Office *now* to get the form. It takes a
couple of weeks to process now, not like the old days when it was issued
over the counter.



OK, thanks. I woll get the form.

--
John Ray

martyn dawe February 1st 10 03:41 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:25:04 -0000, Jim Brittin
[wake up to reply] wrote:

In article , john0001
says...
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?



I just took it to be a reminder to apply for the new one [which I have
done].

I still meet people who don't know about having to renew with photos.

if you look on the freedom pass web site , u will find the renewal
process has changed, because of a new type of pass for the national
busses concession scheme , U have to take your pass and a new photo to
the post office, they then send it off to be scanned , it will take
about 10 days to receive the new pass.

John Ray[_3_] February 1st 10 06:36 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
On 01/02/2010 16:41, martyn dawe wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:25:04 -0000, Jim Brittin
[wake up to reply] wrote:

In articlerdWdnfCL4eUXe_jWnZ2dnUVZ8nKdnZ2d@giganews. com, john0001
@REMOVETHISBITjray.org.uk.invalid says...
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?



I just took it to be a reminder to apply for the new one [which I have
done].

I still meet people who don't know about having to renew with photos.

if you look on the freedom pass web site , u will find the renewal
process has changed, because of a new type of pass for the national
busses concession scheme , U have to take your pass and a new photo to
the post office, they then send it off to be scanned , it will take
about 10 days to receive the new pass.


I did know about the photo requirement, having had a letter from the
Council about a month ago which detailed the procedure. I had however
forgotten that the renewal dates were imminent, which is why, no doubt,
I was getting the warning messages. Anyway, I downloaded the form and
took it with ID etc and a photo to the Post Office this afternoon.
Thanks to all for the advice.

--
John Ray

Batman55 February 1st 10 09:45 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
"John Ray" wrote in message
...
On 01/02/2010 16:41, martyn dawe wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:25:04 -0000, Jim Brittin
[wake up to reply] wrote:

In articlerdWdnfCL4eUXe_jWnZ2dnUVZ8nKdnZ2d@giganews. com, john0001
@REMOVETHISBITjray.org.uk.invalid says...
For about the last three weeks, when entering or leaving a NR or LT
station, I usually (but not always) get a message to the effect that my
Freedom Pass will soon expire. As it is dated 31 March it seems a bit
early to give such a warning. Is it possible that I have a problem with
my card and it will stop working before the due date?



I just took it to be a reminder to apply for the new one [which I have
done].

I still meet people who don't know about having to renew with photos.

if you look on the freedom pass web site , u will find the renewal
process has changed, because of a new type of pass for the national
busses concession scheme , U have to take your pass and a new photo to
the post office, they then send it off to be scanned , it will take
about 10 days to receive the new pass.


I did know about the photo requirement, having had a letter from the
Council about a month ago which detailed the procedure. I had however
forgotten that the renewal dates were imminent, which is why, no doubt, I
was getting the warning messages. Anyway, I downloaded the form and took
it with ID etc and a photo to the Post Office this afternoon. Thanks to
all for the advice.

--
John Ray


I did the same, but the queue was so long (even longer than pre-Christmas)
that I gave it up as a bad job. Try again tomorrow maybe.

MaxB



John Ray[_3_] February 2nd 10 07:53 AM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
On 01/02/2010 22:45, Batman55 wrote:

I did know about the photo requirement, having had a letter from the
Council about a month ago which detailed the procedure. I had however
forgotten that the renewal dates were imminent, which is why, no doubt, I
was getting the warning messages. Anyway, I downloaded the form and took
it with ID etc and a photo to the Post Office this afternoon. Thanks to
all for the advice.

--
John Ray


I did the same, but the queue was so long (even longer than pre-Christmas)
that I gave it up as a bad job. Try again tomorrow maybe.

MaxB



I had to queue for nearly 25 minutes.

--
John Ray

Batman55 February 2nd 10 02:55 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
"John Ray" wrote in message
...
On 01/02/2010 22:45, Batman55 wrote:

I did know about the photo requirement, having had a letter from the
Council about a month ago which detailed the procedure. I had however
forgotten that the renewal dates were imminent, which is why, no doubt,
I
was getting the warning messages. Anyway, I downloaded the form and took
it with ID etc and a photo to the Post Office this afternoon. Thanks to
all for the advice.

--
John Ray


I did the same, but the queue was so long (even longer than
pre-Christmas)
that I gave it up as a bad job. Try again tomorrow maybe.

MaxB



I had to queue for nearly 25 minutes.

--
John Ray


Went back today (only a 15 minute queue) to find a badly written sign saying
"Sorry UNABLE to process freedom cards"! and don't know when they will be.

Good thing I just love queuing in the Post Office.

MaxB



CJB March 9th 10 11:32 AM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
On Feb 2, 3:55*pm, "Batman55" wrote:
"John Ray" wrote in message

...





On 01/02/2010 22:45, Batman55 wrote:


I did know about the photo requirement, having had a letter from the
Council about a month ago which detailed the procedure. I had however
forgotten that the renewal dates were imminent, which is why, no doubt,
I
was getting the warning messages. Anyway, I downloaded the form and took
it with ID etc and a photo to the Post Office this afternoon. Thanks to
all for the advice.


--
John Ray


I did the same, but the queue was so long (even longer than
pre-Christmas)
that I gave it up as a bad job. Try again tomorrow maybe.


MaxB


I had to queue for nearly 25 minutes.


--
John Ray


Went back today (only a 15 minute queue) to find a badly written sign saying
"Sorry UNABLE to process freedom cards"! and don't know when they will be..

Good thing I just love queuing in the Post Office.

MaxB- Hide quoted text -

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The issuing of the new Freedom Passes is turning into a fiasco. A
number of London Councils are reporting delays. I applied for mine as
early as possible - actually about 6 weeks ago. IT HAS STILL NOT
ARRIVED. Yet there is no-one that will take ownership of this. The
Council said I had to report it to the Post Office. The PO said to
phone a premium rate 0845 no. - but this was always engaged. Emails to
the Council Complaints address results in no useful advice. I know
that no delivery has been attempted because no 'red card' has been
left. Bearing in mind the high value of these Passes I am suspecting
that the postal sorting staff have lost or stolen it.

CJB.

Mizter T March 9th 10 11:55 AM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 

On Mar 9, 12:32*pm, CJB wrote:
[snip]
The issuing of the new Freedom Passes is turning into a fiasco. A
number of London Councils are reporting delays. I applied for mine as
early as possible - actually about 6 weeks ago. IT HAS STILL NOT
ARRIVED. Yet there is no-one that will take ownership of this. The
Council said I had to report it to the Post Office. The PO said to
phone a premium rate 0845 no. - but this was always engaged. Emails to
the Council Complaints address results in no useful advice. I know
that no delivery has been attempted because no 'red card' has been
left. Bearing in mind the high value of these Passes I am suspecting
that the postal sorting staff have lost or stolen it.


OH MY GOD IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD.

Sounds like things are not going completely smoothly. Given this I'm
quite sure that the old passes will continue to be accepted for travel
after 31 March, if not by the validators then by visual inspection.

Being brutal, it sounds as though this is one of those kinds of things
that people who haven't got anything better to do decide to get worked
up about. I know a couple of people who's new pass hasn't arrived yet
and they're not stressing out about it.

Dunno why I'm bothering to write this though...

Mizter T March 9th 10 12:37 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 

On Mar 9, 12:55*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Mar 9, 12:32*pm, CJB wrote:
[snip]
The issuing of the new Freedom Passes is turning into a fiasco. A
number of London Councils are reporting delays. I applied for mine as
early as possible - actually about 6 weeks ago. IT HAS STILL NOT
ARRIVED. Yet there is no-one that will take ownership of this. The
Council said I had to report it to the Post Office. The PO said to
phone a premium rate 0845 no. - but this was always engaged. Emails to
the Council Complaints address results in no useful advice. I know
that no delivery has been attempted because no 'red card' has been
left. Bearing in mind the high value of these Passes I am suspecting
that the postal sorting staff have lost or stolen it.


OH MY GOD IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD.

Sounds like things are not going completely smoothly. Given this I'm
quite sure that the old passes will continue to be accepted for travel
after 31 March, if not by the validators then by visual inspection.

Being brutal, it sounds as though this is one of those kinds of things
that people who haven't got anything better to do decide to get worked
up about. I know a couple of people who's new pass hasn't arrived yet
and they're not stressing out about it.

Dunno why I'm bothering to write this though...


In retrospect the above was a bit harsh. I can see someone who relies
on their Freedom Pass for getting around being a bit worried if the
replacement hadn't turned up despite them applying in plenty of good
time. Hard to say whether CJB's problem is that the replacement has
not yet been processed by London Councils (well, their contractor), if
the card has been produced but got lost in the post, or some other
problem such as the approved application form never making it beyond
the Post Office to London Councils (my experience is that POs are
actually quite good at dispatching such paperwork though).

Paul Terry[_2_] March 9th 10 01:18 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
In message
, CJB
writes

The issuing of the new Freedom Passes is turning into a fiasco. A
number of London Councils are reporting delays. I applied for mine as
early as possible - actually about 6 weeks ago. IT HAS STILL NOT
ARRIVED. Yet there is no-one that will take ownership of this. The
Council said I had to report it to the Post Office. The PO said to
phone a premium rate 0845 no. - but this was always engaged. Emails to
the Council Complaints address results in no useful advice.


Have you used the tracker at http://tracker.freedompass.org/ ?
Enter your tracking number (which is on the receipt from the Post
Office) and you should get an idea of the current stage of the
application. Of course, if it has been dispatched but has not arrived,
that is going to be down to Royal Mail.

(I am assuming that you applied at the Post Office, and are not in one
of the three London boroughs that don't use the Post Office for Freedom
Pass applications)

FWIW, mine took about four weeks to arrive.
--
Paul Terry

CJB March 9th 10 06:23 PM

Freedom Pass "Expiring Soon"
 
On Mar 9, 2:18*pm, Paul Terry wrote:
In message
, CJB
writes

The issuing of the new Freedom Passes is turning into a fiasco. A
number of London Councils are reporting delays. I applied for mine as
early as possible - actually about 6 weeks ago. IT HAS STILL NOT
ARRIVED. Yet there is no-one that will take ownership of this. The
Council said I had to report it to the Post Office. The PO said to
phone a premium rate 0845 no. - but this was always engaged. Emails to
the Council Complaints address results in no useful advice.


Have you used the tracker athttp://tracker.freedompass.org/*?
Enter your tracking number (which is on the receipt from the Post
Office) and you should get an idea of the current stage of the
application. Of course, if it has been dispatched but has not arrived,
that is going to be down to Royal Mail.

(I am assuming that you applied at the Post Office, and are not in one
of the three London boroughs that don't use the Post Office for Freedom
Pass applications)

FWIW, mine took about four weeks to arrive.
--
Paul Terry


My application was indeed made through the local Post Office in mid-
January. And apparently the new Freedom pass was processed and issued
within the 10 day target - at the end of January - that is over 6
WEEKS AGO. However apparently it was then sent to the wrong flat
address - unbeknown to me - and then was never returned to the sender.
That is an attempt to deliver it was made and someone unauthorised
signed for it; OR the sorting office never attempted a delivery
anyway. However an amount of mail sent to our flats has been
'lost' (suspected stolen) by the staff at our local sorting office
over the last year or so (and this is subject to a separate joint
complaint to senior management - assuming that they care). We suspect
that my original Pass has also been stolen since no delivery was
attempted at the flat to which it was addressed (the occupants claimed
neve to have seen it - and I believe them since I've known them for a
long time), and it was never returned to the sender. The lost / stolen
Pass has now been invalidated. Now a new one has been re-issued and
arrangements are being made for me to collect it in person. Seems to
me that the postal staff are out of control and can do what they like
- especially now that they have won their pay rise. CJB.


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