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Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

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On 13 Feb, 01:34, lonelytraveller
wrote:
Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

It sounds like the door that people who take the red pill drop
through.
I'll try to go and see it on Monday.

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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:42 -0800 (PST), lonelytraveller
wrote:

Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Was that originally a vent for diesel fumes?
--
Peter Lawrence

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"lonelytraveller" wrote in
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Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

I'm not sure of the reference to Bedford in the subject - are you definitely
on the deep level GN&C (nowadays FCC) platform?

I googled this, and I found you were trying to find out about the tunnels
around there before!

I see from that thread - 'Missing Moorgate, started 05 Aug 2008 - there
were steps and passageways at the south end of all four tunnels that
originally led to lifts etc.

Somewhere on line there is a 3D drawing of all the disused tunnels at
Moorgate, it is proving to be a bit elusive at the moment so I'll keep
looking. I guess you are already aware of the 'subbrit' pages on Moorgate
from the earlier thread...

Paul S

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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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"lonelytraveller" wrote in
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Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Somewhere on line there is a 3D drawing of all the disused tunnels at
Moorgate, it is proving to be a bit elusive at the moment so I'll keep
looking. I guess you are already aware of the 'subbrit' pages on Moorgate
from the earlier thread...

I now find the said 3D drawing is on the Crossrail site, although it's URL
is stale, and it is shown in an earlier post of lonelytraveller's about
Moorgate and Liverpool St. So he'll probably find the answer if he googles
his own threads...

Paul

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On 13 Feb, 15:30, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:42 -0800 (PST), lonelytraveller

wrote:
Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Was that originally a vent for diesel fumes?
--
Peter Lawrence

I thought that line was always electric?

Anyway, its a normal person-sized door, which is a bit of an odd shape
for fume extraction?

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On 13 Feb, 16:12, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"lonelytraveller" wrote in
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Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

I'm not sure of the reference to Bedford in the subject - are you definitely
on the deep level GN&C (nowadays FCC) platform?

Yeah, that's the one. Sorry, I meant Hertford.

Somewhere on line there is a 3D drawing of all the disused tunnels at
Moorgate, it is proving to be a bit elusive at the moment so I'll keep
looking. *
The picture faces north east, and has the ticket hall over most of it,
so it obscures everything in the platform 10 area. Unless you mean
some other 3D drawing?

I guess you are already aware of the 'subbrit' pages on Moorgate
from the earlier thread...
It doesn't mention the door....

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(lonelytraveller) wrote:

On 13 Feb, 15:30, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:42 -0800 (PST), lonelytraveller

wrote:
Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Was that originally a vent for diesel fumes?

I thought that line was always electric?

Not if you mean the Metropolitan Widened Lines.

Anyway, its a normal person-sized door, which is a bit of an odd shape
for fume extraction?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On 14 Feb, 11:19, wrote:
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(lonelytraveller) wrote:
On 13 Feb, 15:30, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:42 -0800 (PST), lonelytraveller

wrote:
Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform 10 at
moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Was that originally a vent for diesel fumes?

I thought that line was always electric?

Not if you mean the Metropolitan Widened Lines.

No, I mean the ones that go to Finsbury Park. The one marked platform
10, in fact.

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(lonelytraveller) wrote:

On 14 Feb, 11:19, wrote:
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(lonelytraveller) wrote:
On 13 Feb, 15:30, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:42 -0800 (PST), lonelytraveller

wrote:
Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform
10 at moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Was that originally a vent for diesel fumes?

I thought that line was always electric?

Not if you mean the Metropolitan Widened Lines.

No, I mean the ones that go to Finsbury Park. The one marked platform
10, in fact.

I wasn't clear what the Moorgate numbering scheme, especially as these
things change over the years. What are now the FCC platforms were the GNC
and not Metropolitan ones at the outset.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On 14 Feb, 12:09, wrote:
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(lonelytraveller) wrote:
On 14 Feb, 11:19, wrote:
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(lonelytraveller) wrote:
On 13 Feb, 15:30, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:42 -0800 (PST), lonelytraveller

wrote:
Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of platform
10 at moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Was that originally a vent for diesel fumes?

I thought that line was always electric?

Not if you mean the Metropolitan Widened Lines.

No, I mean the ones that go to Finsbury Park. The one marked platform
10, in fact.

I wasn't clear what the Moorgate numbering scheme, especially as these
things change over the years. What are now the FCC platforms were the GNC
and not Metropolitan ones at the outset.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

It can be a bit confusing, can't it. Platforms 9 & 10 are one of those
rare cases where the platform is actually visibly numbered on the
platform.

Platform 10 is the one on the right when you descend the escalators.
Its also the only one with a cage-thing at the end.

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(lonelytraveller) wrote:

On 14 Feb, 12:09, wrote:
In article
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(lonelytraveller) wrote:
On 14 Feb, 11:19, wrote:
In article
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(lonelytraveller)
wrote:
On 13 Feb, 15:30, "Peter Lawrence"
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:42 -0800 (PST), lonelytraveller

wrote:
Why is there a door in the ceiling at the south end of
platform 10 at moorgate (behind that cage thing) ?

Was that originally a vent for diesel fumes?

I thought that line was always electric?

Not if you mean the Metropolitan Widened Lines.

No, I mean the ones that go to Finsbury Park. The one marked
platform 10, in fact.

I wasn't clear what the Moorgate numbering scheme, especially as these
things change over the years. What are now the FCC platforms were the
GNC and not Metropolitan ones at the outset.

It can be a bit confusing, can't it. Platforms 9 & 10 are one of those
rare cases where the platform is actually visibly numbered on the
platform.

Platform 10 is the one on the right when you descend the escalators.
Its also the only one with a cage-thing at the end.

The over-run tunnel arrangements at Moorgate GNC were different. IIRC the
longer overrun was the platform 9 one where the 1975 crash occurred. I'm
not sure what they did to them after that.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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I wasn't clear what the Moorgate numbering scheme, especially as these
things change over the years. What are now the FCC platforms were the GNC
and not Metropolitan ones at the outset.
Has this any connection to the Northern City Line? As was.
--
Clive

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On 14 Feb, 16:43, Clive wrote:
In message ,
writesI wasn't clear what the Moorgate numbering scheme, especially as these
things change over the years. What are now the FCC platforms were the GNC
and not Metropolitan ones at the outset.

Has this any connection to the Northern City Line? * As was.
--
Clive

yes, its the would-be-southbound platform - the headwall at the south
end

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In message , Clive
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I wasn't clear what the Moorgate numbering scheme, especially as these
things change over the years. What are now the FCC platforms were the GNC
and not Metropolitan ones at the outset.

Has this any connection to the Northern City Line? As was.

Yes: originally the Great Northern and City Railway, opened in 1904.
Purchased by the Metropolitan Railway in 1913, transferred to London
Underground in 1933, lost its potential moment of glory when the
Northern Heights project for the Northern line was abandoned after the
war, cut back from Finsbury Park to Drayton Park in 1964 to allow for
the Victoria line, renamed as the Highbury branch of the Northern line
in 1970, transferred to British Rail who made a new connection to the
surface lines at Finsbury Park in the 1970s and now part of the FCC
network.

Although seemingly much unloved over the years, it's now back to
fulfilling its original intended purpose of easing congestion at King's
Cross by running commuter services down to a more convenient city
station at Moorgate.
--
Paul Terry

I've included the plans of the platforms and passageways from 1904 to the lift & staircase for the GN & C, but no sign of any extra passageway from the door, even on a later plan from around 1950 that I have.
Station Plan 3 & 4 shows the GN & C Layout.
Station Plan 18 Shows the City & South London from the 1950s.