On Apr 13, 9:25*pm, E27002 wrote:

On Apr 13, 1:14*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Apr 13, 7:22*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message
, at
11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked:

If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a
question mark.

That depends on the language.

It depends on the language?

This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd!

uk.railway: Eclectica, pedantry, thread drift, :-)

Don't try and claim innocence when you're part of it!

In message
, at
13:14:59 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Mizter T remarked:
If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a
question mark.

That depends on the language.

It depends on the language?

This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd!

This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd?
--
Roland Perry

In article .
com, E27002 scribeth thus
On Apr 13, 10:29*am, tony sayer wrote:
In article ,
scribeth thus

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:40:42 +0100
Bruce wrote:
START QUOTE

21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead

13 April, 2010 | By Press Association

Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park
station in north London have been approved by the borough council.

More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other
words.

B2003

Perhaps they'll install the cables in advance so it all looks neat...

If the United Kingdom really liberalized her broadcasting Laws, it
might not be an issue. In the mid 1980s I lived, and worked, in
Louisville, Kentucky. Downtown in front of the Public Library was
(is?) a green. On that green stood a large FM radio tower. Inside
the Library were (are?) the studios of WFPL (Jazz and News), and WFPK
(Classical).

Right next door to the Public Library was a High Rise block of
Condominiums. On top of the Condo tower at the same height, roughly
as the WFPL/WFPK antenna, was another FM Antenna. One of the
Condominiums was leased to, and was the studios of, hard rock station
WLRS.

At that time Louisville had 25 FM radio stations. London had three,
BBC London, LBC, and Capital, plus the National R1/2, R3 and R4.

IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free
market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. This might be a good
election platform for Mr. Cameron. He might in enjoy considerable
support from Mr. Murdoch.

Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop!


You have a valid point in some ways but over there 't other side of the
pond urban areas and for that matter suburban are far more widely spaced
than the UK which of course has mainland Europe and the ROI to contend
with so its not that easy fitting them all in keeping to the agreed
field strengths and frequency clearance and spacing etc.. but then
again the Digital radio field is up for new innovative programming but
seems to be duplicating what's already available on FM......
--
Tony Sayer

On Apr 13, 1:53*pm, tony sayer wrote:
In article .
com, E27002 scribeth thus



On Apr 13, 10:29*am, tony sayer wrote:
In article ,
scribeth thus

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:40:42 +0100
Bruce wrote:
START QUOTE

21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead

13 April, 2010 | By Press Association

Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park
station in north London have been approved by the borough council.

More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other
words.

B2003

Perhaps they'll install the cables in advance so it all looks neat....

If the United Kingdom really liberalized her broadcasting Laws, it
might not be an issue. *In the mid 1980s I lived, and worked, in
Louisville, Kentucky. *Downtown in front of the Public Library was
(is?) a green. *On that green stood a large FM radio tower. *Inside
the Library were (are?) the studios of WFPL (Jazz and News), and WFPK
(Classical).

Right next door to the Public Library was a High Rise block of
Condominiums. *On top of the Condo tower at the same height, roughly
as the WFPL/WFPK antenna, was another FM Antenna. *One of the
Condominiums was leased to, and was the studios of, hard rock station
WLRS.

At that time Louisville had 25 FM radio stations. *London had three,
BBC London, LBC, and Capital, plus the National R1/2, R3 and R4.

IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free
market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. *This might be a good
election platform for Mr. Cameron. *He might in enjoy considerable
support from Mr. Murdoch.

Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop!

You have a valid point in some ways but over there 't other side of the
pond urban areas and for that matter suburban are far more widely spaced
than the UK which of course has mainland Europe and the ROI to contend
with so its not that easy fitting them all in keeping to the agreed
field strengths and frequency clearance and spacing etc.. *but then
again the Digital radio field is up for new innovative programming but
seems to be duplicating what's already available on FM......
--
Tony Sayer

Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. There are some
digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. There are also digital
Satellite services that are subscriber only. Thus far I have stuck
with analogue FM.

It came as a surprise to me to find out that DAB only duplicates what
is available on FM. This appears to be a missed opportunity.

Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop!

You have a valid point in some ways but over there 't other side of the
pond urban areas and for that matter suburban are far more widely spaced
than the UK which of course has mainland Europe and the ROI to contend
with so its not that easy fitting them all in keeping to the agreed
field strengths and frequency clearance and spacing etc.. *but then
again the Digital radio field is up for new innovative programming but
seems to be duplicating what's already available on FM......
--
Tony Sayer

Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard.

Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a ****
poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far
better like other countries are adopting!..

Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but
thats another argument;!..

There are some
digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. There are also digital
Satellite services that are subscriber only. Thus far I have stuck
with analogue FM.

It came as a surprise to me to find out that DAB only duplicates what
is available on FM. This appears to be a missed opportunity.

Well another story perhaps;!..



--
Tony Sayer

On Apr 13, 1:33*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:25*pm, E27002 wrote:





On Apr 13, 1:14*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Apr 13, 7:22*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message
, at
11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked:

If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a
question mark.

That depends on the language.

It depends on the language?

This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd!

uk.railway: Eclectica, pedantry, thread drift, :-)

Don't try and claim innocence when you're part of it!

:-) How could you?

On Apr 13, 3:08*pm, tony sayer wrote:

Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. *

Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a ****
poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far
better like other countries are adopting!..

How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? Would users need to replace
their receivers?

Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but
thats another argument;!..

There are some
digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. *There are also digital
Satellite services that are subscriber only. *Thus far I have stuck
with analogue FM.

There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio.
Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. It can't be rocket
science to implement a good system. We have done it for TV.

Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 13, 4:25 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Bruce wrote:
Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park
station in north London have been approved by the borough council.
.....

The City North Islington Trading Estate site will be bulldozed to
make space for the site.

So this is all to the east of the station, looking at the road names
in the news article.
Is that the side TfL wanted to expand the station concourse into
before it was deferred?

Er, west ITYM.

Er yes - just how does that happen?

Paul S

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:19:26 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote:
wrote in message
...
Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park
station in north London have been approved by the borough council.

More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other
w=
ords.

Yes Boltar.

Don't live in north london do you.

If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a
question mark.

Indeed. Except if you had any braincells to rub together you'd have realised
the above was a statement.

B2003

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
E27002 wrote:
IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free
market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. This might be a good
election platform for Mr. Cameron. He might in enjoy considerable
support from Mr. Murdoch.

Unfortunately it seems that most london pirates are in it for the ego trip
and/or a lot are in some way related to organised crime (allegedly). They
all transmit the same sort of urban **** which is already available on a
number of other legit stations already such as Choice FM, KISS, 1Xtra etc.

Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop!

Imagine all the interference to TV and radio sets for the people living
underneath them.

B2003