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Basil Jet[_2_] April 22nd 10 10:18 AM

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Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?

Mizter T April 22nd 10 10:39 AM

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On Apr 22, 11:18*am, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


Yes - sunny, 20 degrees C, light wind.

[email protected] April 22nd 10 11:08 AM

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:18=A0am, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


Yes - sunny, 20 degrees C, light wind.


That'll be the hot air from the spokesman explaining away the next delay
in opening.

B2003


Basil Jet[_2_] April 22nd 10 11:12 AM

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On 22/04/2010 12:08, d wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
Mizter wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:18=A0am, Basil wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


Yes - sunny, 20 degrees C, light wind.


That'll be the hot air from the spokesman explaining away the next delay
in opening.


By "delay" you mean "not opening it early"?

Mizter T April 22nd 10 11:17 AM

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On Apr 22, 12:08*pm, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:18am, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


Yes - sunny, 20 degrees C, light wind.


That'll be the hot air from the spokesman explaining away the next delay
in opening.


There's no delay - the opening date is Sunday 23 May. There haven't
been any spokespeople explaining away any delay in opening because
there hasn't been any delay in opening.

[email protected] April 22nd 10 11:23 AM

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 04:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 22, 12:08=A0pm, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:18am, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


Yes - sunny, 20 degrees C, light wind.


That'll be the hot air from the spokesman explaining away the next delay
in opening.


There's no delay - the opening date is Sunday 23 May. There haven't
been any spokespeople explaining away any delay in opening because
there hasn't been any delay in opening.


Whatever. It was just a light hearted remark.

All that money spent on new track , trains and doing up the stations so
the south end has a through service to stations that were already well
served and the north end goes to places no one will ever want to visit.
Except it doesn't go to finsbury park , the one destination that might have
been useful.

B2003


eastender[_4_] April 22nd 10 01:19 PM

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In article , d
wrote:

the north end goes to places no one will ever want to visit.


I think you'll be surprised at how popular Dalston is becoming -
theatre, jazz club, famous market etc - and Highbury at the upper end of
Upper Street and by more clubs, the Arsenal etc is hardly not already
popular.

E.

Walter Briscoe April 22nd 10 01:45 PM

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In message of Thu,
22 Apr 2010 14:19:18 in uk.transport.london, eastender
writes
In article , d
wrote:

the north end goes to places no one will ever want to visit.


I think you'll be surprised at how popular Dalston is becoming -
theatre, jazz club, famous market etc - and Highbury at the upper end of
Upper Street and by more clubs, the Arsenal etc is hardly not already
popular.

E.


About noon today, the line diagrams on carriage 8057 of District train
043 showed an interchange with Overground at Whitechapel - there is
another at Barking. The platform hoardings have gone from Whitechapel
and access is now prevented by red and white striped tape.
--
Walter Briscoe

E27002 April 22nd 10 04:45 PM

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On Apr 22, 6:19*am, eastender wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

the north end goes to places no one will ever want to visit.


I think you'll be surprised at how popular Dalston is becoming -
theatre, jazz club, famous market etc - and Highbury at the upper end of
Upper Street and by more clubs, the Arsenal etc is hardly not already
popular.

Moreover, I am hopeful that in time we may see further development.
Perhaps in time we will have a four track NLL with ELL trains reaching
Camden Road, or even Queens Park. There are no plans yet, but who
knows!


Arthur Figgis April 22nd 10 05:54 PM

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On 22/04/2010 11:18, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen...


The first 19 hours seem to have happened on schedule.

is Monday looking good?


Do they ever?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Stephen Furley April 22nd 10 06:02 PM

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On 22 Apr, 17:45, E27002 wrote:
On Apr 22, 6:19*am, eastender wrote:


Moreover, I am hopeful that in time we may see further development.
Perhaps in time we will have a four track NLL with ELL trains reaching
Camden Road, or even Queens Park. *There are no plans yet, but who
knows!


What I would find useful is a service via the East curve at Dalston to
Hackney and Stratford, but I suppose there's no chance of that ever
being put back.

E27002 April 22nd 10 06:26 PM

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On Apr 22, 11:02*am, Stephen Furley wrote:
On 22 Apr, 17:45, E27002 wrote:

On Apr 22, 6:19*am, eastender wrote:
Moreover, I am hopeful that in time we may see further development.
Perhaps in time we will have a four track NLL with ELL trains reaching
Camden Road, or even Queens Park. *There are no plans yet, but who
knows!


What I would find useful is a service via the East curve at Dalston to
Hackney and Stratford, but I suppose there's no chance of that ever
being put back.


Agread, but it probably will not happen. IIRC space has been left at
Dalston Junction for this possibility.

BTW, I thought you no longer used railways at all?

[email protected] April 22nd 10 10:12 PM

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On 22/04/2010 11:18, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


I wonder if there have ever been any transport projects, say for rail,
where the whole structure has been built, stations, signals, etc.
Perhaps they even had rolling stock tested and ready to go.

It would have simply been a matter if signing the papers and opening the
gate.

But then, for whatever economic or political reason, the entire project
wound up being dismantled without a fare paying passenger ever having
set foot on it.

Basil Jet[_2_] April 23rd 10 12:34 AM

Bleedin' ELL
 
On 22/04/2010 23:12, wrote:
On 22/04/2010 11:18, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


I wonder if there have ever been any transport projects, say for rail,
where the whole structure has been built, stations, signals, etc.
Perhaps they even had rolling stock tested and ready to go.

It would have simply been a matter if signing the papers and opening the
gate.

But then, for whatever economic or political reason, the entire project
wound up being dismantled without a fare paying passenger ever having
set foot on it.


The electrification of the line from Finsbury Park to Edgware comes
close to that description. I have a vague recollection that a curve in
the vicinity of Kent House was built but never used by a single train.

Arthur Figgis April 23rd 10 07:27 AM

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On 22/04/2010 23:12, wrote:
On 22/04/2010 11:18, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


I wonder if there have ever been any transport projects, say for rail,
where the whole structure has been built, stations, signals, etc.
Perhaps they even had rolling stock tested and ready to go.

It would have simply been a matter if signing the papers and opening the
gate.

But then, for whatever economic or political reason, the entire project
wound up being dismantled without a fare paying passenger ever having
set foot on it.


I think I've read of a tramway in Norway or Sweden.

Plus lots of freight-only projects....
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Batman55 April 23rd 10 07:44 AM

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"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 22/04/2010 23:12, wrote:
On 22/04/2010 11:18, Basil Jet wrote:
Looks like today won't happen... is Monday looking good?


I wonder if there have ever been any transport projects, say for rail,
where the whole structure has been built, stations, signals, etc.
Perhaps they even had rolling stock tested and ready to go.

It would have simply been a matter if signing the papers and opening the
gate.

But then, for whatever economic or political reason, the entire project
wound up being dismantled without a fare paying passenger ever having
set foot on it.


The electrification of the line from Finsbury Park to Edgware comes close
to that description. I have a vague recollection that a curve in the
vicinity of Kent House was built but never used by a single train.


The shenanigans surrounding the Kent House spur (which cost £11,000) is
described in complex detail in Adrian Gray's LCDR. In essence it was
designed to force the Crystal Palace & South London Junction Railway into
the arms of the LCDR in 1874, which it did.

MaxB




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