wrote:

I see that the 'new' station building, the green Crystal Palace
lookalike thing, is still there. The plans showed this as to be
demolished. Is the original booking hall back in use?

I believe that work is still to commence? We had a discussion about it a few
weeks ago, it appeared then it has been dealt with as a separate planning
application to the platform works and is running to a completely different
timetable...

Paul S

On 19 May, 18:45, "Paul Scott" wrote:
wrote:
I see that the 'new' station building, the green Crystal Palace
lookalike thing, is still there. *The plans showed this as to be
demolished. *Is the original booking hall back in use?

I believe that work is still to commence? We had a discussion about it a few
weeks ago, it appeared then it has been dealt with as a separate planning
application to the platform works and is running to a completely different
timetable...

Paul S

I've just noticed that in this pictu

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...look_west2.jpg

there seem to be metal handrails for some steps leading down from the
now disused platform to the trackbed of the long-disused bay. What
are they for? Are they for access to a S&T cabinet, or something
similar?

wrote:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...look_west2.jpg

there seem to be metal handrails for some steps leading down from the
now disused platform to the trackbed of the long-disused bay. What
are they for? Are they for access to a S&T cabinet, or something
similar?

I think almost certainly. Seems to be pretty near that cabinet (easier seen
at full size), I think there will definitely have been a few resitings, I'd
suggest that AWS magnet seen in the picture would previously have had its
associated cabinet where the new platforms are now...

Paul S

In article
,
() wrote:

I've just noticed that in this pictu


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...tform_6_look_w
est2.jpg

there seem to be metal handrails for some steps leading down from the
now disused platform to the trackbed of the long-disused bay. What
are they for? Are they for access to a S&T cabinet, or something
similar?

Also why the "Do not alight here" signs on a platform with seats on it?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 21 May, 00:47, wrote:
In article
,

() wrote:
I've just noticed that in this pictu

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...tn_platform_6_...
est2.jpg



there seem to be metal handrails for some steps leading down from the
now disused platform to the trackbed of the long-disused bay. *What
are they for? *Are they for access to a S&T cabinet, or something
similar?

Also why the "Do not alight here" signs on a platform with seats on it?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Could they be temporary? Maybe Spanish Solution (two platforms serving
the same track) is to be implemented?

In article
,
(Dr. Sunil) wrote:

On 21 May, 00:47, wrote:
In article
,

Also why the "Do not alight here" signs on a platform with seats
on it?

Could they be temporary? Maybe Spanish Solution (two platforms serving
the same track) is to be implemented?

Doubt it, though I notice there is also a sign indicating train departures
as well.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:

In article
,
(Dr. Sunil) wrote:

On 21 May, 00:47, wrote:
In article
,

Also why the "Do not alight here" signs on a platform with seats
on it?

Could they be temporary? Maybe Spanish Solution (two platforms
serving the same track) is to be implemented?

Doubt it, though I notice there is also a sign indicating train
departures as well.

They probably just haven't got around to removing the seats and
indicator yet. The main priority has got to be getting the new
platforms ready, not tidying up the one that's being taken out of use.

Dr. Sunil wrote:
On 21 May, 00:47, wrote:

Also why the "Do not alight here" signs on a platform with seats on
it?


Could they be temporary? Maybe Spanish Solution (two platforms serving
the same track) is to be implemented?

Not at all likely as [IIRC from discussions in uk.railway] current mainline
stock door controls only allow opening on one side.

Paul S

On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:48:44 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Not at all likely as [IIRC from discussions in uk.railway] current mainline
stock door controls only allow opening on one side.

Really? I'd be surprised if you couldn't open both sides
separately[1]. Unless the "close" buttons close all doors regardless
of size, in which case you'd need more staff to watch the "wrong" side
when closing.

[1] You definitely can on 321s, as these can often be seen in
Bletchley CS with all doors open on both sides, presumably during
cleaning.

Neil
--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
To reply put my first name before the at.

On 21 May, 17:48, "Paul Scott" wrote:

Could they be temporary? Maybe Spanish Solution (two platforms serving
the same track) is to be implemented?

Not at all likely as [IIRC from discussions in uk.railway] current mainline
stock door controls only allow opening on one side.

Why would that be the case' I'm not saying that it isn't? At some
busy locations having separate entrance and exit platforms on opposite
sides, and opening the exit doors first seems like a good idea, though
it seems unlikely that they would want to do it here. Isn't this what
they're doing on the Central Line at Stratford?

I was at Crystal Palace today; came into the new platform 5, and
departed from platform 2 on a train to croydon. The now disused old
platform 4 is clearly not intended to be used anytime soon, though I
did read somewhere that it was going to be kept in a state such that
it could be re-instated if an extra platform was ever needed. The end
of the footbridge leading to this platform has been blocked by
decorative railings. there is a locked gate in them, but it is too
narrow to be intended for public use. Strangely, the steps to this
platform Seem to have new handrails, including a lower rail for use by
children, as with he steps to the new centre platform.

The steps leading down onto the trackbed of the long-disused bay on
the other side of this platform do indeed provide access to a S&T
cabinet. Beyond this cabinet the old stop block still exists in this
bay, despite that it's had no track in it for many years.

Climbing up the stairs to the footbridge to the footbridge from the
recently re-built cebtre platform I'm rather puzzled. I'm pretty sure
that there used to be two tracks between what is now platform 6, and
the recently disused platform, and I think the new centre platform has
been built wider than the old one was, though I never saw the old
one. I can't quite make out what the old arrangement was. As I was
climbing the stairs I thought they looked rather wider than they used
to be, and assumed that they had been widened. However, once I
reached the footbridge, I saw that right next to these stairs was what
I had seen in the past, and assumed to be the stairs to the then
demolished centre platform. This if fact seems to be a steep slope,
about as steep as a staircase, but with no steps, just strips of woo
fixed across it, and it doesn't go right down to the platform, only
about half way. Was this the old staircase, cut back at some time, or
something else? I'm pretty sure that there were some rooms on the
short stub of the old centre platform which used to be there under the
bridge,so staff must have had access to them somehow.

Something I didn't think to check while I was there; access to trains
from the new platform 6 is now from the opposite side to when it was
from the old platform 4. Has the conductor rail on this track been
moved to the opposite side?

The site of the stop blocks for the old Croydon bays has been covered
by some large green boxes; site huts for the building works possibly?