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Oyster PAYG on National Rail advice, please
If I have to go to Brighton from Balham (which I do, next week), does anyone
know of a site that will tell me how far my Oyster PAYG will take me? Presumably I would then buy a return ticket from wherever that is and use my Oyster for the rest. Advice much appreciated. Ian -- |
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Oyster PAYG on National Rail advice, please
In message , Ian F.
writes If I have to go to Brighton from Balham (which I do, next week), does anyone know of a site that will tell me how far my Oyster PAYG will take me? It will take you to the outer boundary of Zone 6. Presumably I would then buy a return ticket from wherever that is and use my Oyster for the rest. Advice much appreciated. You need to ask for a "Boundary Zone 6 to Brighton" return. -- Paul Terry |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:32 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote: It will take you to the outer boundary of Zone 6. Presumably I would then buy a return ticket from wherever that is and use my Oyster for the rest. Advice much appreciated. You need to ask for a "Boundary Zone 6 to Brighton" return. Are you *sure*? I thought you could only use BZ tickets with Travelcards, either day or period, because with PAYG Oyster you must get off and touch out, and you can't do that at BZ6 itself because it's not an actual place! Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK To reply put my first name before the at. |
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Oyster PAYG on National Rail advice, please
In message , Neil Williams
writes On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:32 +0100, Paul Terry wrote: You need to ask for a "Boundary Zone 6 to Brighton" return. Are you *sure*? I thought you could only use BZ tickets with Travelcards, either day or period, because with PAYG Oyster you must get off and touch out, and you can't do that at BZ6 itself because it's not an actual place! You're right - the journey would have to be split at Coulsdon South (or, more practically, at East Croydon) in order to touch out (and back in on the return). I'd forgotten about that annoyance now that I have a Freedom Pass, with which I habitually get BZ6 tickets for places such as Gatwick and Lewes. But, as the OP says, the current Southern £5 offer is going to be better value than using Oyster. -- Paul Terry |
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Oyster PAYG on National Rail advice, please
On Jul 10, 12:21*pm, Paul Terry wrote: In message , Neil Williams writes On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:32 +0100, Paul Terry wrote: You need to ask for a "Boundary Zone 6 to Brighton" return. Are you *sure*? *I thought you could only use BZ tickets with Travelcards, either day or period, because with PAYG Oyster you must get off and touch out, and you can't do that at BZ6 itself because it's not an actual place! You're right - the journey would have to be split at Coulsdon South (or, more practically, at East Croydon) in order to touch out (and back in on the return). I'd forgotten about that annoyance now that I have a Freedom Pass, with which I habitually get BZ6 tickets for places such as Gatwick and Lewes. But, as the OP says, the current Southern £5 offer is going to be better value than using Oyster. Ahh, the joys of the Freedom Pass! (And no, I haven't got one - but I know those who do love theirs!) I do wonder whether this is perhaps the golden era of the Freedom Pass... |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message
... Ahh, the joys of the Freedom Pass! I was due to get mine in September, but now it's going to be March 2011. *******s! Ian |
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Oyster PAYG on National Rail advice, please
On Jul 10, 11:54*am, Neil Williams wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:32 +0100, Paul Terry wrote: It will take you to the outer boundary of Zone 6. Presumably I would then buy a return ticket from wherever that is and use my Oyster for the rest. Advice much appreciated. You need to ask for a "Boundary Zone 6 to Brighton" return. Are you *sure*? *I thought you could only use BZ tickets with Travelcards, either day or period, because with PAYG Oyster you must get off and touch out, and you can't do that at BZ6 itself because it's not an actual place! You're correct Neil. |
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Oyster PAYG on National Rail advice, please
On Jul 10, 11:01*am, Paul Terry wrote: In message , Ian F. writes If I have to go to Brighton from Balham (which I do, next week), does anyone know of a site that will tell me how far my Oyster PAYG will take me? It will take you to the outer boundary of Zone 6. One would need to touch out at a station in zone 6 in order to properly use the system and avoid an unresolved journey charge being applied to the card. Presumably I would then buy a return ticket from wherever that is and use my Oyster for the rest. Advice much appreciated. You need to ask for a "Boundary Zone 6 to Brighton" return. 'Boundary Zone' tickets are only available for use in combination with Travelcards, as they are an extension of that Travelcard - one cannot buy Boundary Zone (BZ) tickets without already holding a Travelcard (and because of the nature of the touch-in touch-out Oyster PAYG system, BZ tickets *cannot* be combined with Oyster PAYG). The only way the OP could take advantage of a BZ ticket and use it with their Oyster card would be if they already held a season Travelcard loaded on their Oyster card - if so then functionally it would no different to combining a paper Travelcard with a BZ ticket. |
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Oyster PAYG on National Rail advice, please
On Jul 10, 10:20*am, "Ian F." wrote: If I have to go to Brighton from Balham (which I do, next week), does anyone know of a site that will tell me how far my Oyster PAYG will take me? The TfL website - specifically the following page which tells you "Where you can use Oyster": http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14869.aspx Scroll down to the "National Rail" heading and you'll see where you can use Oyster on NR services - there is also a link to the "Oyster Rail Services Map", which for convenience I'll also link to below: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...rvices-map.pdf Essentially Oyster Pay-as-you-go (PAYG) can be used for journeys between stations in the London zones (that's zones 1-9), plus Watford Junction, plus four c2c stations (that's the London, Tilbury & Southend line) just east of the zones in Essex. Presumably I would then buy a return ticket from wherever that is and use my Oyster for the rest. Advice much appreciated. When using Oyster, you *have to* touch-in your card at the start of your journey and touch-out at the end of your journey in order to use it properly - this touching-in or out is done on an Oyster pad that is located either on the automatic gates at a station, or else on a standalone validator at the entrance to the station, or at a few stations actually on the platforms themselves (these are basically stations where there's a large potential flow of passengers coming off NR services from outside the zones and starting a journey on the Tube network, and these validators are intended for these interchanging passengers). Coming from Brighton, if you wanted to start using your Oyster card at the *earliest opportunity* you'd have to get off at the first station the train stopped at in the London zones - in all likelihood East Croydon - then go and exit the gates with your paper ticket, then re- enter the gates using your Oyster card, then continue your journey (or if this was a station that didn't have gates you'd have to go and touch-in your Oyster on a standalone validator - oh, and UIVMM at East Croydon there are no 'interchange validators' on the platforms so you'd have to go and exit and then re-renter the gates). Of course doing that would be rather daft. If your end destination is Balham, just buy a ticket to Balham (return if req'd). If you're travelling on from Balham (either immediately or later on) then you could use Oyster PAYG for your onward journey in London, or otherwise you could buy a Day Travelcard from Brighton - this is an inclusive day return to London plus a Travelcard that allows unlimited travel in zones 1-6 in London on trains, Tubes and buses for the day. An off- peak Day Travelcard from Brighton to London costs £25.20, or if you buy it in advance from the Southern website you can take advantage of a 15% off offer so that brings it down to £21.40. Depending on what you're planning to do, then the inclusive Day Travelcard might well be the best option. It should be noted that the Oyster system is designed for journeys *within* London, so whilst it'd work fine for you to use for a journey on from Balham to say Camden Town by Tube, it's not intended for people coming from outside of London to use it as soon as they arrive at the boundary of the London zones. Hope that helps rather than confuses! If you were willing to give us some specifics, then I'm sure we could tell you what your various options could be. |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message
... raft of useful information snipped Thanks for that. I'm a reasonably savvy traveller, but I totally forgot that, of course, one would have to touch out at the last station on the Oyster and in again at, say, East Croydon. I'm going from Balham (where I live) to Brighton for a couple of hours-worth of meeting and then back home. Southern's £5/£8.50 return options are clearly the best option, rather than involving Oyster at all. Thanks again to you and Paul. Ian |
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