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On Jul 30, 8:01*pm, D7666 wrote:

On Jul 29, 6:15*pm, D7666 wrote:

PASSENGER SERVICE MEDIA EVENT MONDAY, 2nd AUGUST 2010

The following paths will be available for S8 stock to convey
passengers in connection with a media event on the above date. These
paths will run in passenger service between Wembley Park and Watford,
calling at Wembley Park, Harrow-on-the-Hill and then all intermediate
stations between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Watford.

Train No. * * * * * * * 402 * * * * * * 402 * * * * * * 402
Neasden Depot (F) * * * * * * * 10 25 * (empty) 12 53 * (empty) * * * * 14 33 * (empty)
Wembley Park (pfm 1) * *arr * * 10 31 * (entrain) * * * 12 59 * (entrain) * * * 14 39
(entrain)
* * * * dep * * 10 33 * * * * * 13 03 * * * * * 14 41
* * * * * * * * FL * * * * * * *FL * * * * * * *FL
Harrow-on-the-Hill (pfm 3) * * * * * * *10c40½ * * * * 13b10½ * * * * 14 47½
* * * * * * * * LL * * * * * * *LL * * * * * * *LL
Northwood * * * * * * * 10 51½ * * * * 13 22 * * * * * 14 58½
Moor *Park * * * * * * *10 54½ * * * * 13 25 * * * * * 15 01½
Watford South Junction * * * * *10/56½ * * * * 13/27 * * * * * 15/03½
Watford * * * * arr * * 11 02 * * * * * 13 32½ * * * * 15 10
Pfm No. * * * * 1 * * * * * * * 2 * * * * * * * 2
* * * * dep * * 11 08½ * * * * 13 38½ * * * * 15 18
Watford South Junction * * * * *11/13½ * * * * 13/43½ * * * * 15/23
Moor Park * * * * * * * 11 15½ * * * * 13 45½ * * * * 15 25
Northwood * * * * * * * 11 18½ * * * * 13 48½ * * * * 15 28
Harrow-on-the-Hill (pfm 6) * * * * * * *11 30 * * * * * 14 00 * * * * * 15 40
* * * * * * * * FL * * * * * * *FL * * * * * * *FL
Wembley Park (pfm 6) * *arr * * 11 35 * (detrain) * * * 14 05 * (detrain) * * * 15 45½
(detrain)
* * * * dep * * 11 37 * (empty) * * * * 14 07 * (empty) 15 47½ (empty)
Neasden Depot (N) * * * * * * * 11 43 * * * * * 14 13 * * * * * 15 54

I'm amazed that 24 h after this post there has nor been more comment ?

Has the message not been propogated ?


Perhaps the masses of uk.railway don't much care for new Underground
trains?

x-posted to utl

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On Jul 30, 8:16*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Perhaps the masses of uk.railway don't much care for new Underground
trains?


Possibly.

However, the masses of uk.railway are all too well ready to criticise
new trains.

If they don't actually go and travel on them, how can they comment
from first hand experience ?

--
Nick

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On Jul 30, 8:18*pm, D7666 wrote:

On Jul 30, 8:16*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Perhaps the masses of uk.railway don't much care for new Underground
trains?

Possibly.

However, the masses of uk.railway are all too well ready to criticise
new trains.

If they don't actually go and travel on them, how can they comment
from first hand experience ?

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

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On Jul 30, 8:23*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

I find it helps to be informed by serious research that includes
actual visits and travel.

Despite numerous offers to write much more, the reason I limit my
writings and reportings for journal such as Todays Railways is that I
keep to things I know about, have experience of, or have thoroughly
researched. And that includes travel.

--
Nick

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On Jul 30, 12:28*pm, D7666 wrote:
On Jul 30, 8:23*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

I find it helps to be informed by serious research that includes
actual visits and travel.

Despite numerous offers to write much more, the reason I limit my
writings and reportings for journal such as Todays Railways is that I
keep to things I know about, have experience of, or have thoroughly
researched. And that includes travel.

Being a former Met. Line user I am keen to hear what these trains are
like. It will be sad to see the A60/A62 stock go. But, it really is
aging. From what I hear it is not as comfortable as it once was.

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On Jul 30, 8:28*pm, D7666 wrote:

On Jul 30, 8:23*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

I find it helps to be informed by serious research that includes
actual visits and travel.

Despite numerous offers to write much more, the reason I limit my
writings and reportings for journal such as Todays Railways is that I
keep to things I know about, have experience of, or have thoroughly
researched. And that includes travel.

Sorry Nick but I think informed comment is rather out of fashion these
days - have you ever tried just making it up? ;-)

Perhaps we should all offer up fictional reviews of the new S stock
and see how well they compare to the real thing?

"The air conditioned ambience of the carriage was somewhat spoilt by
the aromatic drunk who joined at Northwick Park... The lengthy PA
announcement offering an edited version of the conditions of carriage
between each stop became slightly irritating on the third listening...
The passengers didn't seem to notice the difference between the old
stock and the new..."

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On Jul 30, 8:51*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Sorry Nick but I think informed comment is rather out of fashion these
days - have you ever tried just making it up? ;-)

I noticed and no .

--
Nick

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On Jul 30, 9:03*pm, D7666 wrote:

On Jul 30, 8:51*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Sorry Nick but I think informed comment is rather out of fashion these
days - have you ever tried just making it up? ;-)

I noticed and no .

I always find the the bits in Private Eye that occasionally rumble a
newspaper's theatre review as being a work of fiction particularly
delicious... e.g. "x playing Balthasar was particularly expressive"
being an interesting concept in existentialism when x spent his
evening with his head down the toilet whilst the role of Balthasar was
fulfilled by his understudy.

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On 30/07/2010 20:32, 1506 wrote:
On Jul 30, 12:28 pm, wrote:
On Jul 30, 8:23 pm, Mizter wrote:

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

I find it helps to be informed by serious research that includes
actual visits and travel.

Despite numerous offers to write much more, the reason I limit my
writings and reportings for journal such as Todays Railways is that I
keep to things I know about, have experience of, or have thoroughly
researched. And that includes travel.

Being a former Met. Line user I am keen to hear what these trains are
like. It will be sad to see the A60/A62 stock go. But, it really is
aging. From what I hear it is not as comfortable as it once was.

Their speeds are restricted now because of micro cracks in the bogies

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On Jul 30, 2:19*pm, "
wrote:
On 30/07/2010 20:32, 1506 wrote:



On Jul 30, 12:28 pm, *wrote:
On Jul 30, 8:23 pm, Mizter *wrote:

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

I find it helps to be informed by serious research that includes
actual visits and travel.

Despite numerous offers to write much more, the reason I limit my
writings and reportings for journal such as Todays Railways is that I
keep to things I know about, have experience of, or have thoroughly
researched. And that includes travel.

Being a former Met. Line user I am keen to hear what these trains are
like. *It will be sad to see the A60/A62 stock go. *But, it really is
aging. *From what I hear it is not as comfortable as it once was.

Their speeds are restricted now because of micro cracks in the bogies


Thank you. I had heard that their ride had gotten rougher over the
years. In the 1960s they were rather good trains. Compared with the
DMUs on the same route, they were almost futuristic.

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On 30/07/2010 20:28, D7666 wrote:
On Jul 30, 8:23 pm, Mizter wrote:

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

I find it helps to be informed by serious research that includes
actual visits and travel.

New round here, are you?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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In message
Mizter T wrote:


On Jul 30, 8:18*pm, D7666 wrote:

On Jul 30, 8:16*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Perhaps the masses of uk.railway don't much care for new Underground
trains?

Possibly.

However, the masses of uk.railway are all too well ready to criticise
new trains.

If they don't actually go and travel on them, how can they comment
from first hand experience ?

Since when was first hand experience a requisite before offering up
criticism?!

Even first hand experience is not admisable when it conflicts with certain
peoples' prejudices. Witness the almost vicious attack on me by Mr Traction
Motor when I dared to say I could see out of a Voyager window.

--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail
Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/

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On 30 July, 21:21, Mizter T wrote:
On Jul 30, 9:03*pm, D7666 wrote:

On Jul 30, 8:51*pm, Mizter T wrote:

Sorry Nick but I think informed comment is rather out of fashion these
days - have you ever tried just making it up? ;-)

I noticed and no .

I always find the the bits in Private Eye that occasionally rumble a
newspaper's theatre review as being a work of fiction particularly
delicious... e.g. "x playing Balthasar was particularly expressive"
being an interesting concept in existentialism when x spent his
evening with his head down the toilet whilst the role of Balthasar was
fulfilled by his understudy.

You mean like how people who already know that they like to look out
of windows won't be aware that transverse seating has now been
introduced throughout? That will be nice.

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"1506" wrote in message

On Jul 30, 2:19 pm, "
wrote:
On 30/07/2010 20:32, 1506 wrote:



Being a former Met. Line user I am keen to hear what these trains
are like. It will be sad to see the A60/A62 stock go. But, it
really is aging. From what I hear it is not as comfortable as it
once was.

Their speeds are restricted now because of micro cracks in the bogies


Thank you. I had heard that their ride had gotten rougher over the
years. In the 1960s they were rather good trains. Compared with the
DMUs on the same route, they were almost futuristic.

They are quite bouncy, especially compared to the modern DMUs with which
they share tracks to Amersham. But I fear that the new S Stock trains
will be less popular, thanks to the modern trend to rock-hard seats, and
fewer of them. Their extra speed won't be realised for a while, so the
service will be no quicker or more frequent (in fact, less frequent to
Amersham).

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MIG wrote:


You mean like how people who already know that they like to look out
of windows won't be aware that transverse seating has now been
introduced throughout? That will be nice.

It hasn't been introduced throughout. Trust me on this one.

Tom

P.S. They're very nice, shiny trains, although the ride is a bit iffy in
places.

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2010, Tim Fenton wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote in message
...

I always find the the bits in Private Eye that occasionally rumble a
newspaper's theatre review as being a work of fiction particularly
delicious

The original was in the B&W comedy "Only Two Can Play", where a local
journalist (Peter Sellers) sends his review of a first night in without
going to see the play, as he was playing away. Unfortunately for him,
the theatre burnt down during the performance.

The DVD of 'The Day Today' has a very good version of this hidden in the
music on the title screen (you have to leave it there for quite a while
before it gets round to it) where Chris Morris is talking to Peter
O'Hanraha-Hanrahan about a world trade organisation meeting he claims to
have attended that day. In room 107 of the World Trade Centre. That day
being the 11th of September 2001.

tom

--
What we learn about is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our
methods of questioning. -- Werner Heisenberg