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mistral August 6th 10 11:28 AM

Fantasy Stations
 
Does anyone know if there any plans to build any new stations and/or extra platforms to link up some of the existing bits of rail infrastructure in the London area? Some of the proposals/ideas below are more ambitious than others, but here's a list of some possible interchanges. Broadly, they're listed in A to Z page order, starting in NW London and finishing in the SE.

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Fantasy Stations
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1. Draycott Avenue (Northwick Park): Bakerloo, Chiltern (Aylesbury line), Metropolitan
2. Peel Centre (Hendon): Northern, MML
3. Harringay Green Lanes: ECML, Goblin, Piccadilly (via travelator) to a new station.
4. Durnford Street (South Tottenham): GEL (Enfield Town line), Goblin, Victoria via travelator to Seven Sisters
5. Jarrow Road (Tottenham Hale): GEL (Lea Valley Line), Goblin
6. Walthamstow Queens Road: GEL (Chingford line), Goblin, Victoria
7. Blenheim Crescent (Ruislip): Central, Chiltern (High Wycombe line), Metropolitan
8. Wood End (South Harrow): Chiltern (High Wycombe line), Piccadilly
9. Wembley St. Johns: Bakerloo, Chiltern (High Wycombe line), WCML
10. East Neasden: Chiltern, Jubilee, Metropolitan, KC
11. West Hampstead: Chiltern, Jubilee, Metropolitan, MML, NLL
12. South Hampstead: Jubilee, Metropolitan, WCML
13. Belsize Park: MML, Northern
14. Chalk Farm: Northern, WCML
15. Rosslyn Hill: NLL, Northern
16. York Way (Camden): ECML, NLL
17. Cedar Way (Camden): MML, NLL
18. Tufnell Park: Goblin, Northern
19. Hackney Central: GEL (Lea Valley Line), NLL
20. Leytonstone High Road: Central, Goblin
21. Balmoral Road (Manor Park): GEL, Goblin
22. Park Royal: Central, Piccadilly
23. East Ealing: Central, District, GW
24. Harlesden: Bakerloo, KC, WCML
25. Old Oak Common (Acton): Central, GW, KC, NLL
26. Mitre Bridge (Willesden): GW, WLL
27. Silver Road (Shepherds Bush): HC, WLL
28. St Pauls (Central/Thameslink)
29. Shoreditch High Street (ELL/Central/Gt Eastern)
30. Rainhill Way (Bow): District, DLR
31. Ivy Crescent (Acton Green): District, KC, NLL
32. Thames Road (Chiswick): NLL, SWT (Hounslow Loop line)
33. Southwark: Jubilee, SER, Thameslink
34. East Putney: District, SWT
35. Loughborough Junction: ELL (Clapham Junction line), SET, Thameslink
36. Croxted Road (Dulwich): SR (Peckham - Tulse Hill line), SET (Herne Hill - Penge line)
37. Brockley: ELL (New Cross Gate - Croydon line), SET (Lewisham - Peckham line)
38. Howson Road (Brockley): ELL (New Cross Gate - Croydon line), SET (Catford - Peckham line)
39. Tooting Graveney: Northern, SR (Streatham - Wimbledon line)
40. Streatham Junction: SR (Clapham Junction - Croydon line), SR (Streatham - Sutton/Wimbledon line)
41. Leigham (Tulse Hill): SR (Clapham Junction - Crystal Palace line), SR (Tulse Hill - Streatham line)
42. Penge: ELL (New Cross Gate - Croydon line), SET (Dulwich - Beckenham Junction line)
43. The Vineries (Catford): SET (Lewisham - Elmers End line), SET (Catford - Peckham line)
44. Selby Road (Anerley): ELL (New Cross Gate - Croydon line), SET (Crystal Palace - Beckenham Junction line)
45. Meadow Way (Beckenham): CT, SET (Crystal Palace - Beckenham Junction line), SET (Lewisham - Elmers End line)
46. Bickley Junction: SET (Bromley South - Swanley line), SET (New Cross - Orpington line)

There are bound to be some errors, but hopefully you get the general idea. Is there any chance of any of these ideas coming to fruition in the near future, or like Wood Lane, will it take the best part of 25 years to go from initial idea to actual completion? :)

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Abbreviations
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CT = Croydon Tramlink
DLR = Docklands Light Railway
ECML = East Coast Main Line (ex Kings Cross)
ELL = East London Line
GEL = Great Eastern Line (ex Liverpool Street)
Goblin = Gospel Oak to Barking line
GW = Great Western (ex Paddington)
HC = Hammersmith and City Line
KC = Kew to Cricklewood line
MML = Midland Main Line (ex St. Pancras)
NLL = North London Line from Richmond to Stratford
SET = South Eastern Trains
SR = Southern Railway
SWT = South West Trains
WCML = West Coast Main Line (ex Euston)
WLL = West London Line from Clapham Junction to Willesden Junction

Beyond that, there are similar places in the SE such as Farnborough, Edenbridge and Maidstone where a station to link passing railway lines might come in handy.

Bruce[_2_] August 6th 10 02:51 PM

Fantasy Stations
 
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 12:28:58 +0100, mistral
wrote:

Does anyone know if there any plans to build any new stations and/or
extra platforms to link up some of the existing bits of rail
infrastructure in the London area?



I have heard that there are plans for underground stations in the
Ipswich area.


[email protected] August 6th 10 02:58 PM

Fantasy Stations
 
On 6 Aug, 12:28, mistral wrote:
Does anyone know if there any plans to build any new stations and/or
extra platforms to link up some of the existing bits of rail
infrastructure in the London area?


11. West Hampstead: Chiltern, Jubilee, Metropolitan, MML, NLL


Things have been proposed at West Hampstead for many years; what
became Thameslink was originally proposed by the GLC as an extension
of Southern Region services to terminate there for interchange with
the other lines. Quite recently there have been proposals for
platforms on the Chiltern lines, and improved interchange between the
three stations there.

Basil Jet[_2_] August 6th 10 03:15 PM

Fantasy Stations
 
On 2010\08\06 15:58, wrote:
On 6 Aug, 12:28, wrote:
Does anyone know if there any plans to build any new stations and/or
extra platforms to link up some of the existing bits of rail
infrastructure in the London area?


11. West Hampstead: Chiltern, Jubilee, Metropolitan, MML, NLL


Things have been proposed at West Hampstead for many years; what
became Thameslink was originally proposed by the GLC as an extension
of Southern Region services to terminate there for interchange with
the other lines. Quite recently there have been proposals for
platforms on the Chiltern lines, and improved interchange between the
three stations there.


I believe that plan died a few years ago.

[email protected] August 6th 10 03:24 PM

Fantasy Stations
 
On 6 Aug, 16:15, Basil Jet wrote:

I believe that plan died a few years ago.


I've certainly seen it alive more recently than that; I think it's
died and been revived several times over the years. I suspect that
it's probably dead now, at least until the present economic climate
improves.

Peter Smyth August 6th 10 05:37 PM

Fantasy Stations
 


"mistral" wrote in message
...

Does anyone know if there any plans to build any new stations and/or
extra platforms to link up some of the existing bits of rail
infrastructure in the London area? Some of the proposals/ideas below
are
more ambitious than others, but here's a list of some possible
interchanges. Broadly, they're listed in A to Z page order, starting
in
NW London and finishing in the SE.


22. Park Royal: Central, Piccadilly


Anyone know what happened to this one? A few years ago it seemed to be
going ahead.

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/33

Peter Smyth


Colin McKenzie August 6th 10 08:19 PM

Fantasy Stations
 
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:37:08 +0100, Peter Smyth
wrote:
Does anyone know if there any plans to build any new stations and/or
extra platforms to link up some of the existing bits of rail
infrastructure in the London area? Some of the proposals/ideas below are
more ambitious than others, but here's a list of some possible
interchanges. Broadly, they're listed in A to Z page order, starting in
NW London and finishing in the SE.


22. Park Royal: Central, Piccadilly


Anyone know what happened to this one? A few years ago it seemed to be
going ahead.


The office development that was to fund it has stalled. Theoretically it's
still a requirement if all the offices get built, but London Underground
were never keen, and the condition is likely to be dropped if housing is
built instead of offices.

A pity, and I still hope it goes ahead. It's easy to work out that
passengers from further out on Piccadilly or Central lines, going to a
zone 1 or 2 destination on the other line, benefit from changing at Park
Royal. So does LU, as it reduces number of stations passed and number of
interchanges made in zone 1, where tube capacity is most strained. And
they're more likely to get a seat. But this sort of lateral thinking seems
to be beyond London Underground.

Colin McKenzie

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[email protected] August 6th 10 09:53 PM

Fantasy Stations
 
In article ,
(mistral) wrote:

34. East Putney: District, SWT


Huh? East Putney Station looked real enough to me yesterday morning. If
you mean the proposed interchange with Putney (SWT) then you are firmly in
the realms of fantasy as discussed here in the past, mainly for lack of
demand.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_2_] August 7th 10 11:36 AM

Fantasy Stations
 
wrote in message

On 6 Aug, 16:15, Basil Jet wrote:

I believe that plan died a few years ago.


I've certainly seen it alive more recently than that; I think it's
died and been revived several times over the years. I suspect that
it's probably dead now, at least until the present economic climate
improves.


Probably longer than that -- Chiltern is now more focused on serving
longer distance routes (Brum, and soon Oxford, and maybe even Miltpn
Keynes), not suburban London. It provides a minimal service to its other
London stations, and wouldn't want to have stopping local trains holding
up its increasing number of fast, longer distance trains.



Recliner[_2_] August 7th 10 11:38 AM

Fantasy Stations
 
"Colin McKenzie" wrote in message
news:op.vg09em1lby8eno@sheepdog
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:37:08 +0100, Peter Smyth
wrote:
Does anyone know if there any plans to build any new stations and/or
extra platforms to link up some of the existing bits of rail
infrastructure in the London area? Some of the proposals/ideas
below are more ambitious than others, but here's a list of some
possible interchanges. Broadly, they're listed in A to Z page
order, starting in NW London and finishing in the SE.


22. Park Royal: Central, Piccadilly


Anyone know what happened to this one? A few years ago it seemed to
be going ahead.


The office development that was to fund it has stalled. Theoretically
it's still a requirement if all the offices get built, but London
Underground were never keen, and the condition is likely to be
dropped if housing is built instead of offices.


Yes, the second office building still looks unlet, so I don't suppose
they'll be in any hurry to build more.




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