And why not? It's not as if a significant proportion of the people in
Tottenham and Brixton were planning on trying to get to Notting Hill...
Numerous other bits of lines shut too, including one of the platforms at
Latimer Road shut for lengthening work! AFAIR there has been no closures
on any part of LU in previous years... If it's a Boris decision, it's a
strange one.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Basil Jet wrote:

And why not? It's not as if a significant proportion of the people in
Tottenham and Brixton were planning on trying to get to Notting Hill...

For Totterers, and others in the vicinity of the Lea Valley lines, the
best route is surely down to Liverpool Street and the Central line anyway?
From Brixton itself, train to Victoria and Circle round the corner seems
just as good as a Victoria line route, and for the other stations down
there, the alternatives are not as good, but do exist.

Numerous other bits of lines shut too, including one of the platforms at
Latimer Road shut for lengthening work!

Now that *is* an odd decision.

AFAIR there has been no closures on any part of LU in previous years...
If it's a Boris decision, it's a strange one.

Maybe. He's got a track record in doing for festivals - see Rise - so
maybe he's siding with the Notting Hill NIMBYs and trying to strangle the
carnival too.

tom

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:50:43 +0100
Tom Anderson wrote:
AFAIR there has been no closures on any part of LU in previous years...
If it's a Boris decision, it's a strange one.

Maybe. He's got a track record in doing for festivals - see Rise - so
maybe he's siding with the Notting Hill NIMBYs and trying to strangle the
carnival too.

Would anyone apart from drug dealers and trendy lefties give a damn if the
carnival vanished?

B2003

On 25 Aug, 12:58, wrote:

Would anyone apart from drug dealers and trendy lefties give a damn if the
carnival vanished?

Given the vast number of people who go to Carnival (presumably) out of
their own free-will, I'd say 'yes', quite a few people would give a
damn.

You can't argue with the sheer number of people who will be going,
this year. Very few of whom will be drug dealers. I'd expect there are
people from all parts of the political spectrum there, too ... so not
just 'lefties'.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT)
David F wrote:
On 25 Aug, 12:58, wrote:

Would anyone apart from drug dealers and trendy lefties give a damn if the
carnival vanished?

Given the vast number of people who go to Carnival (presumably) out of
their own free-will, I'd say 'yes', quite a few people would give a
damn.

You can't argue with the sheer number of people who will be going,
this year. Very few of whom will be drug dealers. I'd expect there are
people from all parts of the political spectrum there, too ... so not
just 'lefties'.

Its free. Make them may the price of the V festival or glastonbury and then
see how many show up. I'd wager there'd be more people on the floats than
in the crowd.

B2003

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:50:43 +0100
Tom Anderson wrote:
AFAIR there has been no closures on any part of LU in previous years...
If it's a Boris decision, it's a strange one.

Maybe. He's got a track record in doing for festivals - see Rise - so
maybe he's siding with the Notting Hill NIMBYs and trying to strangle the
carnival too.

Would anyone apart from drug dealers and trendy lefties give a damn if the
carnival vanished?

As for Rise - it was just another left wing political statement dressed
up as entertainment. Why should the taxpayer fund it?

B2003

On 25 Aug, 13:01, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:50:43 +0100

Tom Anderson wrote:
AFAIR there has been no closures on any part of LU in previous years...
If it's a Boris decision, it's a strange one.

Maybe. He's got a track record in doing for festivals - see Rise - so
maybe he's siding with the Notting Hill NIMBYs and trying to strangle the
carnival too.

Would anyone apart from drug dealers and trendy lefties give a damn if the
carnival vanished?

As for Rise - it was just another left wing political statement dressed
up as entertainment. Why should the taxpayer fund it?

And the UEFA Champions League is a credit card advert dressed up as a
football competition ...

The taxpayer was left with the bill for Rise because Boris wouldn't
allow it to promote what the sponsors were trying to promote. I don't
suppose the sponsors of any event would pay up if their aims or
products weren't allowed to be promoted at the event.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:56:06 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote:
As for Rise - it was just another left wing political statement dressed
up as entertainment. Why should the taxpayer fund it?

And the UEFA Champions League is a credit card advert dressed up as a
football competition ...

True, but the difference being however that I don't pay for that out of my
taxes.

The taxpayer was left with the bill for Rise because Boris wouldn't
allow it to promote what the sponsors were trying to promote. I don't
suppose the sponsors of any event would pay up if their aims or
products weren't allowed to be promoted at the event.

If Boris stopped it turning into some barely disguised political rally then
good.

B2003

On 26 Aug, 09:38, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:56:06 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
As for Rise - it was just another left wing political statement dressed
up as entertainment. Why should the taxpayer fund it?

And the UEFA Champions League is a credit card advert dressed up as a
football competition ...

True, but the difference being however that I don't pay for that out of my
taxes.

The taxpayer was left with the bill for Rise because Boris wouldn't
allow it to promote what the sponsors were trying to promote. *I don't
suppose the sponsors of any event would pay up if their aims or
products weren't allowed to be promoted at the event.

If Boris stopped it turning into some barely disguised political rally then
good.

My experience is that it turned into a lucrative event for the same
food and drink sellers and fairground ride owners regardless of
sponsor. The political side may have been the intention of the
sponsors, but the "turning" was in the other direction.

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
th.li...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Basil Jet wrote:

And why not? It's not as if a significant proportion of the people in
Tottenham and Brixton were planning on trying to get to Notting
Hill...

The Victoria line is running normally on the Bank Holiday Monday which
is the main carnival day although it is closed on Sunday.

For Totterers, and others in the vicinity of the Lea Valley lines, the
best route is surely down to Liverpool Street and the Central line
anyway? From Brixton itself, train to Victoria and Circle round the
corner seems just as good as a Victoria line route, and for the other
stations down there, the alternatives are not as good, but do exist.

Numerous other bits of lines shut too, including one of the platforms
at Latimer Road shut for lengthening work!

Now that *is* an odd decision.

Latimer Road will have a platform closed for nearly a year. Currently
trains are not stopping westbound, in December they will start on the
eastbound platform. I don't think it is feasible to reopen the plaform
for two days when they are in the middle of completely rebuilding it.

Peter Smyth