On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:06:36 +0100, Bruce
wrote:

Railist wrote:
OFF TOPIC...
Later that day, I went to the Trenitalia ticket machine at Verona
Porto Nuovo station, for a longer distance journey from Verona to Lake
Garda.
Their ticket machines allow you to alter the "from" point, will book a
seat on relevant trains even when that train is mid-journey, and the
Regionale train fare (no seat or advance booking required) was =802.85
each way. Just remember to validate the ticket. Semplice.


What is "meerkat" in Italian? ;-)

Suricata suricatta ;-)



although the allegedly "dead language" leads to suricato as in :-
http://regnoanimale.forumfree.it/?t=47484931

Well, yer did.....

Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:06:36 +0100, Bruce
wrote:

What is "meerkat" in Italian? ;-)

Suricata suricatta ;-)

although the allegedly "dead language" leads to suricato as in :-
http://regnoanimale.forumfree.it/?t=47484931

Well, yer did.....


Trust you, Charles. Trust you. ;-)

On 23 Sep, 00:13, Railist wrote:
OFF TOPIC...
Later that day, I went to the Trenitalia ticket machine at Verona
Porto Nuovo station, for a longer distance journey from Verona to Lake
Garda.
Their ticket machines allow you to alter the "from" point, will book a
seat on relevant trains even when that train is mid-journey, and the
Regionale train fare (no seat or advance booking required) was €2.85
each way. Just remember to validate the ticket. Semplice.

Surely Verona to Lake Garda is a shorter journey if anything than St
Pancras to Gatwick ?

I only say that as we booked out Annual Holiday for next year at Lake
Garda and are considering the Artesia overnight to Verona for car
hire........



Richard

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:13:57 -0700 (PDT), Railist
wrote:

So initially, £14.40, then £11 when the fare that I should have had
was £8.30 return, but without a railcard no more than £10 return.

Depends what you wanted. If you'd wanted to use Gat Ex, you'd have
wanted the undiscounted BZ5 ticket at (I think) £14 - NSE/Gold Card
discounts are not available on Gat Ex, stupid though this is[1] now
it's actually Southern.

[1] Didn't this used to apply to all IC operators, but Gat Ex is the
only one left that still does it?

Neil
--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
To reply put my first name before the at.

On 23 Sep, 22:48, Fat richard wrote:
On 23 Sep, 00:13, Railist wrote:

OFF TOPIC...
Later that day, I went to the Trenitalia ticket machine at Verona
Porto Nuovo station, for a longer distance journey from Verona to Lake
Garda.
Their ticket machines allow you to alter the "from" point, will book a
seat on relevant trains even when that train is mid-journey, and the
Regionale train fare (no seat or advance booking required) was €2.85
each way. Just remember to validate the ticket. Semplice.

Surely Verona to Lake Garda is a shorter journey if anything than St
Pancras to Gatwick ?

I only say that as we booked out Annual Holiday for next year at Lake
Garda and are considering the Artesia overnight to Verona for car
hire........

Richard

It's about the same - my intention was to compare East Croydon -
Gatwick, with Verona to Desenzano del Garda, which is a longer
distance journey.
The fare was cheaper, buying it was easier, but the Regionale trains
were not great
However, Lake Garda is simply beautiful. And your Euro goes a long way
there!

On 23 Sep, 23:36, Neil Williams
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:13:57 -0700 (PDT), Railist

wrote:
So initially, £14.40, then £11 when the fare that I should have had
was £8.30 return, but without a railcard no more than £10 return.

Depends what you wanted. *If you'd wanted to use Gat Ex, you'd have
wanted the undiscounted BZ5 ticket at (I think) £14 - NSE/Gold Card
discounts are not available on Gat Ex, stupid though this is[1] now
it's actually Southern.

[1] Didn't this used to apply to all IC operators, but Gat Ex is the
only one left that still does it?

Neil
--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
To reply put my first name before the at.

I think though that this reflects the failing fares system we have
been lumbered with.
Arriving at St. Pancras at 0550am, with a Gatwick departure within 30
minutes from that station,
so offer me a ticket that can be used on Gatwick Express.

Interesting that Travelcard Z1-5 can be used with an extension to
Gatwick on GEx. Didn't know that was possible!