On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Offramp wrote:

Ha-haar. An they do all be a-sea-farin counties ha haaar!

Wait - you mean the pasties at Victoria might be smuggled?

tom

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In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

"Adrian" wrote in message
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Offramp gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

I saw a lorry delivering at Victoria yesterday to the Cornish Pasty
Co. The lorry reg began GN09. Now, I don't really care, because I
really like those pasties, but is GN a west country plate?

If you mean the West Cornwall Pasty Co, I think they're a national chain
these days.

G's the mnemonic for Garden of England. Kent, Sussex, Hants.

Not quite.

G is Kent and Sussex (approximately) issued by the Maidstone and
Brighton area offices,

All Hants area registrations start H, from the Portsmouth area
office.

Though HW is allocated to the Isle of Wight.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Oct 15, 5:45*pm, Paul Terry wrote:

In message , tim....
writes

According to the advertising in the shop the *have" come from Cornwall (each
day)

They have a distribution centre near Aylesbury - but I guess that
wouldn't necessarily contradict the claim.

I don't want pasties all the way from Cornwall - I want pasties from
around the corner! I shall endeavour to investigate their in-store
promotional material...

In message , at 17:45:20 on Fri,
15 Oct 2010, Paul Terry remarked:
According to the advertising in the shop the *have" come from Cornwall (each
day)

They have a distribution centre near Aylesbury - but I guess that
wouldn't necessarily contradict the claim.

And there's another "made in Cornwall" pasty distribution centre in
Bristol. I do wonder why they can't distribute the recipe instead, to
somewhere a bit closer to their customers!
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:45:20 on Fri, 15
Oct 2010, Paul Terry remarked:
According to the advertising in the shop the *have" come from Cornwall
(each
day)

They have a distribution centre near Aylesbury - but I guess that wouldn't
necessarily contradict the claim.

And there's another "made in Cornwall" pasty distribution centre in
Bristol. I do wonder why they can't distribute the recipe instead, to
somewhere a bit closer to their customers!

Because Cornwall needs the jobs

tim

--
Roland Perry

In message , at 10:15:22 on
Sat, 16 Oct 2010, remarked:
Recently Tesco opened a store next
to the Callington Factory.
You can buy the pasties next door,trouble is they have been shipped to
Tescos depot in Avonmouth and shipped back again first.
As a local in the paper implied, why doesn't somebody think and just
push a Trolley around the Corner.

I expect they make the pasties in batches, and ship a lorry load of the
same kind to the distribution depot for "mixing" with other products
baked in separate batches that day.

So the Tesco people would need to go round many times a day, or the
factory would have to introduce a mechanism to skim off a bit from each
batch and store it locally. Tesco also probably reserve the right to
decide how much of which sort they want, at the last minute - so how
would the factory know in advance how many to skim off, and what happens
to the surplus?
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 11:19:15 on Sat, 16 Oct
2010, tim.... remarked:

And there's another "made in Cornwall" pasty distribution centre in
Bristol. I do wonder why they can't distribute the recipe instead, to
somewhere a bit closer to their customers!

Because Cornwall needs the jobs

It's a shame they can't make something which doesn't need to be trucked
so far, and isn't quite so perishable.
--
Roland Perry

In article ,
says...

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Offramp gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

I saw a lorry delivering at Victoria yesterday to the Cornish Pasty Co.
The lorry reg began GN09. Now, I don't really care, because I really
like those pasties, but is GN a west country plate?

G's the mnemonic for Garden of England. Kent, Sussex, Hants.

Doesn't mean the wagon's not based in the West Country, though. It's just
a rough area that the dealer who originally supplied it were located,
based on which DVLA local office they use.

And as this is utl some of the first "hopper" buses that LT bought ran
around with NI numbers because that is where they came from (you can tell
because they included the letter I which GB numbers don't allow)

tim

Our local SLWs of the period were RDZ's I recall.

Anyway, where the lorry comes from is irrelevant, London buses seem to
come from London, Birmingham, Preston, Scotland, Peterborough, Kent,
don't think we have any Welsh ones yet.

wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:37:17 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On Oct 15, 5:45 pm, Paul Terry wrote:

In message , tim....
writes

According to the advertising in the shop the *have" come from
Cornwall (each
day)

They have a distribution centre near Aylesbury - but I guess that
wouldn't necessarily contradict the claim.

I don't want pasties all the way from Cornwall - I want pasties from
around the corner! I shall endeavour to investigate their in-store
promotional material...

The Pasty firm Ginsters when it was new and small used to have the
Strap line" Fresh up from Cornwall Daily" on the delivery vehicles.
As it got bigger and depots were needed the line changed to just to
Either "Up From Cornwall daily" or "Fresh up from Cornwall" I can't
quite remember which one it was.

It has been part of the Samworth brothers group for a long time now
and operates like most big firms. Recently Tesco opened a store next
to the Callington Factory.
You can buy the pasties next door,trouble is they have been shipped to
Tescos depot in Avonmouth and shipped back again first.
As a local in the paper implied, why doesn't somebody think and just
push a Trolley around the Corner.

There will still need to be a lorry going from Callington to Avonmouth
to deliver pasties for all the other Tesco stores that aren't next door.

There will still need to be a lorry going from Avonmouth to Callington
to deliver all the other products that aren't made next door.

So the marginal cost of shipping the pasties 200 miles is pretty much
zero. It is likely to cost more to set up a special arrangement for just
one store.

Peter Smyth

In message , at 12:21:44 on
Sat, 16 Oct 2010, remarked:
I expect they make the pasties in batches, and ship a lorry load of the
same kind to the distribution depot for "mixing" with other products
baked in separate batches that day.

Well yes, that is how the distribution systems work having evolved
that way with cheap fuel and a reasonable Trunk road network which has
taken about 50 years to develop.

Hub and spoke distribution systems are the most efficient (you don't
want one lorry to travel round all the Tesco stores delivering a handful
of pasties to each one, followed by another delivering a handful of cans
of baked beans to each one, and so on).

Whether that will be sustainable over the next 50 years is probably a
debate without end and not having strong views on either way don't
really worry about. business will adapt to the conditions at the time.

If there is less transport available, we'll have to put up with less
choice. Who needs a pasty from Cornwall, anyway - the local pie factory
can make them just as easily. (And if Cornish people can't get jobs,
that'll simply be a casualty of living in an outpost in a time of high
transport costs).
--
Roland Perry