On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.

In message
s.com of Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:48:22 in uk.transport.london,
writes
On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.

There is a window etched "Ladies Waiting Room" - it may be "LADIES
WAITING ROOM" - on the eastbound platform (2) at South Woodford (George
Lane). When I queried this by email, along with the lack of signage of
the male toilets on the westbound platform, LU's answer was incomplete.
ISTR phoning and being told I could ignore "Ladies" in this case. There
is only one eastbound waiting room. I suppose I should have insisted on
an answer by email.
--
Walter Briscoe

On Nov 29, 6:05*pm, Walter Briscoe
wrote:
In message
s.com of Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:48:22 in uk.transport.london,
writes

On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? *There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. *There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.

There is a window etched "Ladies Waiting Room" - it may be "LADIES
WAITING ROOM" - on the eastbound platform (2) at South Woodford (George
Lane). When I queried this by email, along with the lack of signage of
the male toilets on the westbound platform, LU's answer was incomplete.
ISTR phoning and being told I could ignore "Ladies" in this case. There
is only one eastbound waiting room. I suppose I should have insisted on
an answer by email.
--
Walter Briscoe

I used to wonder if this was meant to be interpreted as Ladies, and
also Waiting room, ie the waiting room is the way to the Ladies, but
there would be no point in only putting the sign to the latter inside
the room.

On Nov 29, 6:05*pm, Walter Briscoe
wrote:

writes

On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? *There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. *There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.

There is a window etched "Ladies Waiting Room" - it may be "LADIES
WAITING ROOM" - on the eastbound platform (2) at South Woodford (George
Lane). When I queried this by email, along with the lack of signage of
the male toilets on the westbound platform, LU's answer was incomplete.
ISTR phoning and being told I could ignore "Ladies" in this case. There
is only one eastbound waiting room. I suppose I should have insisted on
an answer by email.

Why?

In message
s.com of Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:42:43 in uk.transport.london, Mizter T
writes

On Nov 29, 6:05*pm, Walter Briscoe
wrote:

writes

On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? *There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. *There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.

There is a window etched "Ladies Waiting Room" - it may be "LADIES
WAITING ROOM" - on the eastbound platform (2) at South Woodford (George
Lane). When I queried this by email, along with the lack of signage of
the male toilets on the westbound platform, LU's answer was incomplete.
ISTR phoning and being told I could ignore "Ladies" in this case. There
is only one eastbound waiting room. I suppose I should have insisted on
an answer by email.

Why?

1) So I could rely on my email database rather than my memory.
2) So I could adduce permission to use.

That waiting room is probably not an anteroom for female toilets.
(I have the following note on South Woodford toilet facilities:
P1W 06.00-19.00: F; M hidden at far end.)
--
Walter Briscoe

In article
s.com, writes
On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.
As recently as last year (and it may still be there) there was a
Ladies' Waiting Room on Plat 4 at Orpington, with the Ladies' toilet
opening off it. What is annoying is that was no "General" waiting
room and that station is *cold*.
I think Ladies Only compartments lasted right up to the end of
compartment stock.
--
Bill Borland

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:48:11PM +0000, Bill Borland wrote:

I think Ladies Only compartments lasted right up to the end of
compartment stock.

If they did, I never noticed 'em, which means that they would have
disappeared, at least from the lines I regularly used, by the early
eighties at the latest, whereas there was slam-door stock still
operating, with first class compartments and some second-class
compartments, right up until 2005.

--
David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice

On 2010-11-29 18:48:11 +0000, Bill Borland said:

In article
s.com, writes
On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.
As recently as last year (and it may still be there) there was a
Ladies' Waiting Room on Plat 4 at Orpington, with the Ladies' toilet
opening off it. What is annoying is that was no "General" waiting
room and that station is *cold*.
I think Ladies Only compartments lasted right up to the end of
compartment stock.

Surely not? The last I remember were on the GN suburbans prior to
electrification in 1976. Compartments lasted after that, even if you
discount corridor stock. What about the 302 stock, for instance? Some
compartments but no ladies-only.

On Nov 30, 12:42*pm, Ken Wheatley wrote:
On 2010-11-29 18:48:11 +0000, Bill Borland said:





In article
s.com, writes
On Nov 29, 3:27*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

A google search finds very little information about women-only waiting
rooms, but I did find one suggestion that they went out of favour
largely as a result of such concerns.

It used to be Ladies waiting room and General waiting room; I've never
seen a Gentlemen's waiting room; were there ever such things? *There
were also 1st and 3rd class waiting rooms, but that was before my
time. *There were also Ladies only compartments of course; I'm not
sure when they went out of use, but they were still around in about
the early '70s.
As recently as last year (and it may still be there) there was a
Ladies' Waiting Room on Plat 4 at Orpington, with the Ladies' toilet
opening off it. *What is annoying is that was no "General" waiting
room and that station is *cold*.
I think Ladies Only compartments lasted right up to the end of
compartment stock.

Surely not? The last I remember were on the GN suburbans prior to
electrification in 1976. Compartments lasted after that, even if you
discount corridor stock. What about the 302 stock, for instance? Some
compartments but no ladies-only.


Some BR design 416s had non-corridor compartments up till about 1994
or 1995, but nothing about ladies.

In message
, at
11:09:11 on Tue, 30 Nov 2010, MIG
remarked:
I think Ladies Only compartments lasted right up to the end of
compartment stock.

Surely not? The last I remember were on the GN suburbans prior to
electrification in 1976. Compartments lasted after that, even if you
discount corridor stock. What about the 302 stock, for instance? Some
compartments but no ladies-only.

Some BR design 416s had non-corridor compartments up till about 1994
or 1995, but nothing about ladies.

iirc the compartment EMUs on the line out of Liverpool St in the late
60's had a Ladies-only under the pantograph. So there might be only one
per train, depending on how many units.
--
Roland Perry