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London's mayor is to cut £7.6bn from the budget of Transport for London
(TfL) over the next seven years.

TfL is already in the middle of a £5bn "savings programme" but the RMT union
said the new cuts target "defies belief" and will lead to job losses.

The extra £2bn cuts will mean passengers could see fares rise by 2% above
the inflation rate - an annual rise of 7% - for the next four years.
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A slightly muddled story I feel, though perhaps that's because I've rather
lost the thread on the overall budget cuts situation given the various
different announcements over the past few years. (But £2bn on top of £5bn
doesn't come to £7.6bn!)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12891117

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London's mayor is to cut £7.6bn from the budget of Transport for London
(TfL) over the next seven years.

A slightly muddled story I feel, though perhaps that's because I've rather
lost the thread on the overall budget cuts situation given the various
different announcements over the past few years. (But £2bn on top of £5bn
doesn't come to £7.6bn!)
I just hope that someone - in City Hall or in the media - holds Boris Johnson to account and demands exact details of what this will mean in practice and how much money will be saved.

I was chatting this morning with someone who works for London Underground and he told me that only Crossrail and HS2 will be supported with public money in the foreseeable future. As I am deeply sceptical about both projects, this depressed me.

On the other hand, if Boris Johnson denies TfL money for their road sabotage schemes - e.g. Tottenham High Road - then I will jump for joy.

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I was chatting this morning with someone who works for London
Underground and he told me that only Crossail and HS2 will be supported
with public money in the foreseeable future.


Not according to the 143 pages of the TfL business plan, (which I won't
attempt to summarise).

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...and-Budget.pdf

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I think you need to understand that Boris chairs TfL and that gyratory removal schemes - such as Tottenham - are seemingly approved of by the Mayor and his Transport Adviser (based on what is said in press releases). I'm pretty sure that TfL would not get away
with implementing initiatives that were not in line with what the Mayor
and his advisers wanted. TfL only exists to deliver Mayoral policy - it
doesn't have a policy of its own.
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I'm well aware that Boris Johnson is nominal head of TfL. Indeed I once heard him declare on Vanessa Feltz's radio programme "I am TfL." I am also aware that frequently in sizable organisations some staff members have their own agenda while pretending to be be loyal and conscientious. This doesn't happen only in politics and public administration. I've come across it several times within commercial organisations.

It is indisputable that some of TfL's activities concerning London's roads are at variance with some of Boris Johnson's declared policies. For example, in his introduction to the new TfL business plan Boris Johnson writes about ripping out many of London's (innumerable) unnecessary traffic lights. Off-hand I can't think of any location where traffic lights have been removed but I know of several where TfL have either recently installed or plan to install some. Boris Johnson has often said he wants to reduce air pollution in London but the main reason air quality in London has deteriorated so much in the past ten years is that TfL have taken measures all over London to prevent traffic from moving. (When motor vehicles are held at red traffic signals or behind a bus where the pavement has been extended to prevent cars from passing the stationary bus, the motorists do not switch their engines off)

Does Boris Johnson realise that some of TfL's activities contradict his declared policies? I don't know. We have here a classical fools or knaves situation. Either Boris Johnson is as big a liar as Ken Livingston and does not at all intend to carry out his declared policies of smoothing London's traffic flow and reducing air pollution or he is an utter fool who simply does not know what is going on.

Both interpretations are feasible because both accord with known facts. We know that since becoming Mayor Boris Johnson has done nothing to improve road conditions but has indulged his pro-cycling prejudice. On the other hand we know that he does not pay attention to detail. On more than one occasion Nick Ferrari, when interviewing him, has been able to demonstrate that Boris Johnson has not familiarised himself with the precise details of some policy Johnson has announced. To twist a man like that round their fingers, all TfL has to do is tell Boris Johnson the same pack of lies they tell everyone else. I'm quite sure they have told him that their plans for Tottenham High Road will smooth the flow of traffic, improve conditions for pedestrians, increase safety all round and reduce air pollution. TfL have made those same fraudulent boasts about all their road schemes which have created massive traffic congestion and air pollution and have turned London into a backward city.

What is clear to anyone with any common sense is that returning the Seven Sisters section of Tottenham High Road to two-way traffic will not work. It did not work 40 years ago when traffic levels were much lighter than now and it will not work today when TfL have confiscated half the road space for bus lanes and have installed additional traffic lights to prevent traffic from moving.

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