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John Rowland wrote:
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Sports minister Dick Caborn insisted that the projects were on track
and added he was disappointed with Lemley's comments.

Let's think about this, who would you believe, a lieing scum bag
politician or Jack Lemley. Can anybody remember, did Jack Lemley head
up TML or Euro Tunnel. I can't say that I have encountered much
mobilsation of labour considering that this is only 5 years away.

I think that London council tax payers and lottery ticket buyers had
better start digging into their pockets. And that doesn't even take
into account overuns on the the likes of ELLx.

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I've just spent more of my life than I'm strictly speaking happy about
researching and writing an article on this very subject.

Consensus in the industry seems to be, going on past Olympics, that
it'll be ready for July 2012 because it's too big and too high profile
not to. But to achieve that costs are likely to soar - the less time
there is to do stuff, the more expensive it becomes to do it.

You'll notice the government is being very, very cagey about giving out
cost estimates. One suspects that they don't want anyone to be able to
pin a figure on them.

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The sour-grapes rant of an incompetent who was fired. There's always
one...

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Last night, Derek Wyatt, the Labour MP who chairs the all-party Olympics
committee at Westminster, agreed that building costs were likely to be far
higher than original estimates.

But Mr Wyatt dismissed Mr Lemley as "out of his depth" and said it was
commonplace for Olympic project costs the world over to increase.
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Nice to see such complacency from somebody spending MY MONEY.



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Last night, Derek Wyatt, the Labour MP who chairs the all-party Olympics
committee at Westminster, agreed that building costs were likely to be far
higher than original estimates.

But Mr Wyatt dismissed Mr Lemley as "out of his depth" and said it was
commonplace for Olympic project costs the world over to increase.
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Nice to see such complacency from somebody spending MY MONEY.


Well, according to a programme on television last night ("London Inside
Out" or a similar name), the Olympic Delivery Authority or whatever
they're called don't even own all of the land required yet! Right in
the middle of the site is a plot of allotments which, although no doubt
subject to compulsory purchase, has not actually been purchased yet and
would not be purchased until an alternative site has been found for the
evictees - something that is far from being concluded even at this
stage!

If building and other costs soar over the estimates originally
provided, as is bound to be case, why should already hard-pressed
London taxpayers pay any of this? Surely those who campaigned to have
the Olympics, and those who provided inaccurate estaimates should pay
for their deceit and/or negligence.

Marc.

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Well, according to a programme on television last night ("London Inside
Out" or a similar name), the Olympic Delivery Authority or whatever
they're called don't even own all of the land required yet! Right in
the middle of the site is a plot of allotments which, although no doubt
subject to compulsory purchase, has not actually been purchased yet and
would not be purchased until an alternative site has been found for the
evictees - something that is far from being concluded even at this
stage!


Marc.


Not too great a problem really, the main athletic staduium is only used for
about a week, and the allotments could be left in between where the javelin
and discuss land - it would give the stadium that quintessentially British
look and feel surely?

Paul


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Ian F. wrote:
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The sour-grapes rant of an incompetent who was fired. There's always
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Ian


Jack Lemley is hardly incompetent.

Kevin

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Jack Lemley is hardly incompetent.



I don't know. I'd read that he went back home for personal reasons, and
when he was quizzed by a local paper in Boise about his reasons, he
exaggerated the problem in order to keep his high profile back home as a
businessman.

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That's hardly news. What next? "Water is wet" or "Polar bears don't
live inside my sofa"



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