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Thinking of my travel plans this week I realise I don't know the maximum
journey times on Oyster, especially for Zones 1-2 and 1-3. Can anyone
point me to the information by the morning, please?

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Do I need to find a pink validator somewhere and if so where would be
best? Highbury and Islington?


The pink readers would only affect your time limit if it affected the
route of your journey.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14871.aspx


Thanks. I was wrong. I thought the route included zone 3. ISTR an artifice
to keep fare levels up on the NLL. Wasn't Hampstead Heath in zone 3 at one
time?

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(Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:

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Thanks. I was wrong. I thought the route included zone 3. ISTR an
artifice to keep fare levels up on the NLL. Wasn't Hampstead Heath in
zone 3 at one time?


Yes and also Wilesden Junction. IIRC both were moved by London
Overground.


But the ******* system charged me £1.90 at Putney from Highbury &
Islington via Willesden Junction (touched pink Oyster pad)and Clapham
Junction. That's all in Zone 2 so should have been £0.85 with Railcard
discount. The SWT man at Putney was completely confused. The Oyster
Helpline was helpless until tomorrow.

£1.90 is the direct fare. I thought the point of pink Oyster pads was to
avoid that?

While we're at it, why is the pink Oyster pad at Willesden Junction so far
from the NLL platforms? A right pain to go almost all the way to platforms
1-3.Luckily I had 10 minutes. If I had waited at Highbury for the through
train it would have been impossible. Not that Oyster took any notice
anyway. When I asked the TfL Overground assistance people at Willesden
Junction why there was no pad on that platform he said it was up to "the
Oyster people".

Oh, and the first two trains got terminated short of their destinations
due to faults. The H&C at Moorgate (driver advised everyone to tip out at
Barbican for same platform interchange) and the ELL at Dalston Junction.
There was another train waiting across the platform there, though it did
say "Out of service" until after it had set off.

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Thinking of my travel plans this week I realise I don't know the
maximum journey times on Oyster, especially for Zones 1-2 and 1-3.
Can anyone point me to the information by the morning, please?


To amplify my question, I'm thinking of Kings Cross St Pancras to
Whitechapel, Whitechapel to Highbury and Islington, Highbury and Islington
to Clapham Junction via Willesden Junction and Clapham Junction to Putney.
The TfL journey planner reckons that takes just under two hours.

Will an Oyster timeout cause me a problem?

Do I need to find a pink validator somewhere and if so where would be
best? Highbury and Islington?


Maximum journey times is at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14872.aspx.
It looks to me as if your peregrination is Within zones 1 - 2 100.
It seems you need to break your journey into two.
A simple touch out, followed by an immediate touch in, is USUALLY
effective. Occasionally, the equivalent of an OSI is applied and all
bets are off. It always happens at King's Cross St Pancras aka King's
Cross St.Pancras and I have seen it sometimes happen at London Bridge.
(I failed to get a satisfactory explanation from the Oyster Helpline for
inconsistent behaviour at London Bridge.)
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In article ,
(Walter Briscoe) wrote:

In message of Sun, 3 Jul
2011 19:11:31 in uk.transport.london,

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In article ,
() wrote:

Thinking of my travel plans this week I realise I don't know the
maximum journey times on Oyster, especially for Zones 1-2 and 1-3.
Can anyone point me to the information by the morning, please?


To amplify my question, I'm thinking of Kings Cross St Pancras to
Whitechapel, Whitechapel to Highbury and Islington, Highbury and
Islington to Clapham Junction via Willesden Junction and Clapham
Junction to Putney. The TfL journey planner reckons that takes just
under two hours.

Will an Oyster timeout cause me a problem?

Do I need to find a pink validator somewhere and if so where would be
best? Highbury and Islington?


Maximum journey times is at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14872.aspx.
It looks to me as if your peregrination is Within zones 1 - 2 100.
It seems you need to break your journey into two.
A simple touch out, followed by an immediate touch in, is USUALLY
effective. Occasionally, the equivalent of an OSI is applied and all
bets are off. It always happens at King's Cross St Pancras aka King's
Cross St.Pancras and I have seen it sometimes happen at London Bridge.
(I failed to get a satisfactory explanation from the Oyster Helpline for
inconsistent behaviour at London Bridge.)


Thanks for this. I wonder which is best of Whitechapel or Highbury &
Islington for a touch out and in? Neither seem to be on the OSI list. The
trouble is that will make two fares instead of one, £1.25 plus £1.25 as
long as I touch a pink validator to show I've avoided zone 1 on the second
leg. SO I need to exit at Whitechapel and find a pink validator at
Highbury or Willesden Junction. If I can do it in one leg it costs £1.90.

An off peak return to zone 2 from Cambridge is £24.10, £3.95 more than the
London Terminals fare.

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In article ,
(Walter Briscoe) wrote:

In message of Sun, 3 Jul
2011 19:11:31 in uk.transport.london,

writes
In article ,
() wrote:

Thinking of my travel plans this week I realise I don't know the
maximum journey times on Oyster, especially for Zones 1-2 and 1-3.
Can anyone point me to the information by the morning, please?

To amplify my question, I'm thinking of Kings Cross St Pancras to
Whitechapel, Whitechapel to Highbury and Islington, Highbury and
Islington to Clapham Junction via Willesden Junction and Clapham
Junction to Putney. The TfL journey planner reckons that takes just
under two hours.

Will an Oyster timeout cause me a problem?

Do I need to find a pink validator somewhere and if so where would be
best? Highbury and Islington?


Maximum journey times is at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14872.aspx.
It looks to me as if your peregrination is Within zones 1 - 2 100.
It seems you need to break your journey into two.
A simple touch out, followed by an immediate touch in, is USUALLY
effective. Occasionally, the equivalent of an OSI is applied and all
bets are off. It always happens at King's Cross St Pancras aka King's
Cross St.Pancras and I have seen it sometimes happen at London Bridge.
(I failed to get a satisfactory explanation from the Oyster Helpline for
inconsistent behaviour at London Bridge.)


Thanks for this. I wonder which is best of Whitechapel or Highbury &
Islington for a touch out and in? Neither seem to be on the OSI list. The
trouble is that will make two fares instead of one, £1.25 plus £1.25 as
long as I touch a pink validator to show I've avoided zone 1 on the second
leg. SO I need to exit at Whitechapel and find a pink validator at
Highbury or Willesden Junction. If I can do it in one leg it costs £1.90.

How are you avoiding zone 1 on the second leg? - bearing in mind that (I
think) Shoreditch High St is in zone 1.

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