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Graham Harrison[_2_] July 6th 11 09:26 AM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
Is some/all of the Victoria Line stock going to Eastleigh for scrapping? I
ask because I caught a glimpse of one carriage on a low loader going through
Eastleigh.


W14_Fishbourne July 6th 11 12:11 PM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
On Jul 6, 10:26*am, "Graham Harrison"
wrote:
Is some/all of the Victoria Line stock going to Eastleigh for scrapping? * I
ask because I caught a glimpse of one carriage on a low loader going through
Eastleigh.


Most of the tube stock that's ever headed in that sort of direction
has been en route for the Isle of Wight. I've heard it said that
Victoria Line stock would be no use for the Island but maybe someone's
decided to have a closer look. Just a thought.

Recliner[_2_] July 6th 11 01:47 PM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
"Graham Harrison" wrote in
message

Than you for that. I can't tell you anything about the one I saw
other than that it had a driving cab.


Presumably it's the 67 DMs that are the least useful now?



Pat O'Neill July 6th 11 02:57 PM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 

"W14_Fishbourne" wrote in message
...
On Jul 6, 10:26 am, "Graham Harrison"
wrote:
Is some/all of the Victoria Line stock going to Eastleigh for scrapping? I
ask because I caught a glimpse of one carriage on a low loader going
through
Eastleigh.


Most of the tube stock that's ever headed in that sort of direction
has been en route for the Isle of Wight. I've heard it said that
Victoria Line stock would be no use for the Island but maybe someone's
decided to have a closer look. Just a thought.


I've heard the IOW will be getting replacement stock soon.


Chris Sanderson July 6th 11 08:34 PM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
As far as im aware, it remains the case that ex-Picc stock will be
heading for the Island - with its withdrawal now pushed back, SWT have
stated that the current trains will not be replaced during the current
franchise (up to 2018 i believe).

Chris


[email protected] July 6th 11 10:54 PM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
In article ,
(Graham Harrison) wrote:

Is some/all of the Victoria Line stock going to Eastleigh for
scrapping? I ask because I caught a glimpse of one carriage on a
low loader going through Eastleigh.


Are they being sensible enough to send some to the Isle of Wight?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Neil Williams July 7th 11 11:37 PM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 22:50:24 +0100, wrote:
loops and much simpler signaling. Longer term save money pumping
the tunnel dry and return to the street route used by the original
pier trams.


Isn't the tunnel the only reason for the need for tiny trains?

Trams might well offer a solution, especially if they could be run by
Southern Vectis as part of their bus network.

Neil

--
Neil Williams, Milton Keynes, UK

[email protected] July 7th 11 11:45 PM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
On 07/07/2011 22:50, wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:54:13 -0500,

wrote:

In ,
(Graham Harrison) wrote:

Is some/all of the Victoria Line stock going to Eastleigh for
scrapping? I ask because I caught a glimpse of one carriage on a
low loader going through Eastleigh.


Are they being sensible enough to send some to the Isle of Wight?


At the risk of being branded a heretic isn't it time the Isle of Wight
got offered something a little more up to date than 40 year old trains
When tube stock was first sent across the traffic still needed 4 car
and 7 car trains and the line had more double track than it has now. 2
car operation is now the norm.
Perhaps Trams could be more suitable,lighter on power demand, lighter
on the track, easier to increase the service with a couple of passing
loops and much simpler signaling. Longer term save money pumping
the tunnel dry and return to the street route used by the original
pier trams. New vehicles will probably be too expensive but possibly
there are some second hand ones around as Continental cities upgrade
their fleets.
G.Harman


Why can't they just put in the money to raise the bridge?

Paul Terry[_2_] July 8th 11 08:54 AM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
In message ,
" writes

Why can't they just put in the money to raise the bridge?


It's a quarter of a mile long tunnel, not a bridge.

--
Paul Terry

Paul Terry[_2_] July 8th 11 09:14 AM

Scrapping Victoria Line stock?
 
In message ,
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Perhaps Trams could be more suitable


That has been proposed. The scheme (from Bombardier) is to build a tram
tunnel under the Solent to Gosport, from where trams would use the
existing road network to Fort Rowner, and then disused rail track to a
terminus at Fareham, offering cross-platform interchange with Network
Rail.

On the island, once the SWT franchise expires, the trams would take over
the island line, and there is an ambition to reopen the Sandown to
Newport line for trams.

I don't think it was particularly well received. A lot of traffic is
seasonal, making it difficult to justify the cost of the Solent tunnel
(although the underwater part needs only to be about a mile in length).
There was huge opposition from the ferry companies, naturally, and the
residents seem to feel that a major part of the island's attraction is
its relative inaccessibility!

This proposal didn't include using the St John's Road tunnel, though,
where I think there wouldn't be enough clearance for a tram's overhead
gear - although I wouldn't have thought it beyond the wit of engineers
to use battery power plus a system for automatically lowering the
overhead gear (as on the Rome trolleybus network).
--
Paul Terry


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