Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

On 20 July, 09:37, Peter wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:39:44 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote:

wrote:

And nothing seems to be getting done about this situation.

What would you propose? A certificate of mental stability from all passengers
checked at the turnstyle? *

That would help ensure everone got a seat!
--
Cheers

Peter

(Reply to address is a spam trap - pse reply to the group)

One area that needs to be addressed is the police and fire brigade
approach to such incidents. It's usually the them that require a
complete shutdown. NR and the railway companies need to get together
with the emergency services to examine more efficient ways of
recovering the train service. It's difficult but it can be done.

Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

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On 20 July, 09:37, Peter wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:39:44 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote:

wrote:

And nothing seems to be getting done about this situation.

What would you propose? A certificate of mental stability from all
passengers
checked at the turnstyle?

That would help ensure everone got a seat!
--
Cheers

Peter

(Reply to address is a spam trap - pse reply to the group)

One area that needs to be addressed is the police and fire brigade
approach to such incidents. It's usually the them that require a
complete shutdown. NR and the railway companies need to get together
with the emergency services to examine more efficient ways of
recovering the train service. It's difficult but it can be done.

There was a report a few days ago about a new 3D laser device the police are
to use on road accidents to allow the site to be cleared more quickly and
the details then recreated on a computer for detailed study. It would be
nice to think this could be adopted by Network Rail, and not just for
suicides.

Although there has been some levity about the most recent incident, we have
to remember that the police are dealing with an unexplained death and need
to tread cautiously :).

MaxB

Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

"Roland Perry" wrote:

In message , at 02:31:32 on Wed, 20 Jul
2011, Tim Roll-Pickering remarked:

And there did not seem to be any contingency plans at Paddington
despite this being a regular occurrence.

Is there some especial reason for it happening regularly at Paddington -
an
open home in the area for instance?

Paddington is where the effects are felt, and where people think not
enough is done to alert passengers to alternative routes (or indeed where
not enough is done to arrange temporary transport - perhaps a bus shuttle
to Heathrow).

The hot spots for the suicides themselves are in the suburbs.

I'd think that directing people towards the Underground would be the best
alternative route to Heathrow - I'd guess that's what already happens at
Paddington on such occasions?

Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

In message , at 10:57:12 on
Wed, 20 Jul 2011, MaxB remarked:
Although there has been some levity about the most recent incident, we
have to remember that the police are dealing with an unexplained death
and need to tread cautiously :)

Better CCTV would allow an explanation to be forthcoming very quickly
for many of the suicides. And they wouldn't even need to get their feet
wet.
--
Roland Perry

Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

In message , at 11:34:39 on Wed, 20 Jul
2011, Mizter T remarked:

I'd think that directing people towards the Underground would be the
best alternative route to Heathrow

That or shared taxis.

- I'd guess that's what already happens at Paddington on such
occasions?

I'm not sure it is. Perhaps someone who has been caught up could
comment. Observations about large numbers of people missing planes
would suggest not.
--
Roland Perry

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On Jul 19, 7:35*pm, wrote:

And there did not seem to be any contingency plans at Paddington
despite this being a regular *occurrence.

Do you remember once when some top johnny decided to keep trains
running at normal speed over the top of a covered-up corpse?
I thought that was an extremely sensible idea but the outcry in the
newspapers (which included a picture of a mound-like blanket) was
massively negative.

Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

On 2011\07\20 12:47, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:57:12 on
Wed, 20 Jul 2011, MaxB remarked:
Although there has been some levity about the most recent incident, we
have to remember that the police are dealing with an unexplained death
and need to tread cautiously :)

Better CCTV would allow an explanation to be forthcoming very quickly
for many of the suicides. And they wouldn't even need to get their feet
wet.

Replacing the sleepers with a smooth tray would allow a form of car wash
to be fitted to the affected stations.

Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

"Roland Perry" wrote:

In message , at 11:34:39 on Wed, 20 Jul 2011,
Mizter T remarked:

I'd think that directing people towards the Underground would be the best
alternative route to Heathrow

That or shared taxis.

- I'd guess that's what already happens at Paddington on such occasions?

I'm not sure it is. Perhaps someone who has been caught up could comment.
Observations about large numbers of people missing planes
would suggest not.

Whose observations are those? Whilst the OP, CJB, likes to present his posts
in a 'reportage' style, his comments on the matter of missed flights are
little more that his own conjecture.

Massive Disruption at Paddington - Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 

In message , at 13:25:23 on Wed, 20 Jul
2011, Mizter T remarked:
Observations about large numbers of people missing planes
would suggest not.

Whose observations are those? Whilst the OP, CJB, likes to present his
posts in a 'reportage' style, his comments on the matter of missed
flights are little more that his own conjecture.

On this occasion he seems to have been travelling on the line, says
there weren't any alternatives on offer at Paddington, and maybe saw
lots of fliers sat around waiting.
--
Roland Perry

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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 02:57:38AM +0100, D A Stocks wrote:

I understand Southern have had some success with the measures they have
taken at the more notorious spots in their territory.

What have they done, and what are those spots?

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