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Matthew Dickinson September 19th 11 05:05 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card

http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp

Basil Jet[_2_] September 19th 11 05:38 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:
Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card

http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


That's actually a Beatles theme!

Mizter T September 19th 11 07:27 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

On Sep 19, 6:38*pm, Basil Jet wrote:

On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


That's actually a Beatles theme!


London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.

Robin[_3_] September 19th 11 07:42 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


But could never have happened:

a. not something the Islington political class eat*; and
b. not multicultural - indeed quite culturally insensitive.

*There was the wonderful (no doubt apocryphal) story of Peter Mandelson
going into a chippie to try to boost his older Labour credential and
asking for haddock, chips and "some of that guacamole" - mistaking the
mushy peas for avocado dip.
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com



Mizter T September 19th 11 07:42 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

On Sep 19, 8:27*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Sep 19, 6:38*pm, Basil Jet wrote:

On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:


Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


That's actually a Beatles theme!


London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


The Cockel Card scans rather better though.

Railsigns.co.uk September 19th 11 07:53 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On Sep 19, 8:42*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Sep 19, 8:27*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Sep 19, 6:38*pm, Basil Jet wrote:


On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:


Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


That's actually a Beatles theme!


London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


The Cockel Card scans rather better though.

Needs a bit of mussel, though.

Mizter T September 19th 11 08:01 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

On Sep 19, 8:42*pm, "Robin" wrote:

London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


But could never have happened:

a. * *not something the Islington political class eat*; and
b. * *not multicultural - indeed quite culturally insensitive.


Sigh... welcome to the comments section of Britain's best selling mid-
market paper.


*There was the wonderful (no doubt apocryphal) story of Peter Mandelson
going into a chippie to try to boost his older Labour credential and
asking for haddock, chips and "some of that guacamole" - mistaking the
mushy peas for avocado dip.


If we were to want to talk about vaguely transport related apocryphal
sayings, then how that which was (and still is) widely misattributed
to Maggie about men over 26/30 on buses being failures in life.

What other classic misattribitions or apocryphal stories are there in
the railway (or public transport) world?

Richard J.[_3_] September 19th 11 08:41 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
Mizter T wrote on 19 September 2011 20:27:28 ...

On Sep 19, 6:38 pm, Basil wrote:

On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


That's actually a Beatles theme!


London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


What's wrong with Oyster? As observed by Senior Museum of London
archaeologist Julian Bowsher: "Oysters were in fact the staple diet of
the poor, right up to the Victorian period, and certainly we find oyster
shells by the thousand on nearly every archaeological site we do."
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)


Basil Jet[_2_] September 19th 11 08:49 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On 2011\09\19 20:42, Mizter T wrote:

On Sep 19, 8:27 pm, Mizter wrote:

On Sep 19, 6:38 pm, Basil wrote:

On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:


Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


That's actually a Beatles theme!


London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


The Cockel Card scans rather better though.


You know what that would be instantly nicknamed though...

[email protected] September 19th 11 08:52 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On 19/09/2011 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:
Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card

http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


Cool. Are they going to have a Cod card or a Haddock card for Scotland,
I wonder?

I wonder how they came up with the term Oystercard to begin with, however?

Anyway, will Walrus cards be compatible at places that accept
Oystercards, or vice-versa?

Roland Perry September 19th 11 09:09 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
In message , at 21:52:26 on Mon, 19 Sep
2011, " remarked:

Anyway, will Walrus cards be compatible at places that accept
Oystercards, or vice-versa?


The Walrus and the Carpenter ate oysters, of course.
--
Roland Perry

Railsigns.co.uk September 19th 11 09:15 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On Sep 19, 9:52*pm, "
wrote:
On 19/09/2011 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


Anyway, will Walrus cards be compatible at places that accept
Oystercards, or vice-versa?

I certainly hope that I can use my Walrus card on the Goo Goo
G'Jubilee Line.


Jim[_3_] September 19th 11 09:20 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
In article ,
says...

On 19/09/2011 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:
Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card

http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp

Cool. Are they going to have a Cod card or a Haddock card for Scotland,
I wonder?

I wonder how they came up with the term Oystercard to begin with, however?

Anyway, will Walrus cards be compatible at places that accept
Oystercards, or vice-versa?


What about Kipper cards for smokers?

Robin[_3_] September 19th 11 10:35 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

No, a salmon(d) card!

And salmon pink is probably about the only colour it could be without
upsetting one football team or another.

Scotland's national team played in salmon pink and purple in the 1990s,
although ISTR some of their fans weren't too keen
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com



Charles Ellson September 20th 11 01:03 AM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:41:54 +0100, "Richard J."
wrote:

Mizter T wrote on 19 September 2011 20:27:28 ...

On Sep 19, 6:38 pm, Basil wrote:

On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card

http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp

That's actually a Beatles theme!


London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


What's wrong with Oyster? As observed by Senior Museum of London
archaeologist Julian Bowsher: "Oysters were in fact the staple diet of
the poor, right up to the Victorian period, and certainly we find oyster
shells by the thousand on nearly every archaeological site we do."

And they don't become "foreign" when you can't hear the bells of St
Mary le Bow.

Sam Wilson September 20th 11 07:47 AM

Marine themed smartcards
 
In article , "Robin"
wrote:


No, a salmon(d) card!

And salmon pink is probably about the only colour it could be without
upsetting one football team or another.

Scotland's national team played in salmon pink and purple in the 1990s,
although ISTR some of their fans weren't too keen


I'm trying to remember if they were sponsored by a certain transport
conglomerate.

Sam

Paul Scott[_3_] September 20th 11 08:48 AM

Marine themed smartcards
 
wrote in message
...

Anyway, will Walrus cards be compatible at places that accept Oystercards,
or vice-versa?


The Liverpool card is an ITSO card, and therfore won't be compatible with
Oyster, although DfT want TfL to make Oyster ITSO compatible as well.

Paul S


Bob September 20th 11 09:36 AM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On Sep 19, 10:52*pm, "
wrote:
On 19/09/2011 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


Cool. Are they going to have a Cod card or a Haddock card for Scotland,
I wonder?


I'm assuming Cardiff would have a Whale card.

I wonder how they came up with the term Oystercard to begin with, however?


I belief the official idea was some sort of association with
containing pearls. Of course Hong Kong has the octopus card too.

Robin

David Cantrell September 20th 11 12:52 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 08:42:44PM +0100, Robin wrote:

London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.

But could never have happened:
a. not something the Islington political class eat*; and
b. not multicultural - indeed quite culturally insensitive.


How is it "culturally insensitive"?

--
David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence

We found no search results for "crotchet". Did you mean "crotch"?

[email protected] September 20th 11 12:55 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:04 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 08:42:44PM +0100, Robin wrote:

London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.

But could never have happened:
a. not something the Islington political class eat*; and
b. not multicultural - indeed quite culturally insensitive.


How is it "culturally insensitive"?


Because its English. Didn't you know that the union flag apparently upsets
ethnics too? English or even British culture isn't worth spit as far as the
liberal elite are concerned.

B2003


Robin[_3_] September 20th 11 02:39 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
How is it "culturally insensitive"?


I had assumed Mizter T suggested "jellied eels" as rhyming slang for
"wheels". I'd understood that rhyming slang was not inclusive language
and hence was deprecated.

There's also the point that jellied eels are almost unknown outside
London (and mainly working class East London at that) and so do not
resonate with London's multiracial, multicultural selling points.
Oysters are much more a worldwide, up-market product. That said, when
the Oystercard was launched ISTR a Chelsea Blue of my acquaintance
remarking with a laugh that they may have overlooked the fact that "the
only Kosher oyster is a prairie oyster" ;)


--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com




Arthur Figgis September 20th 11 05:51 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On 20/09/2011 10:36, bob wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:52 pm,
wrote:
On 19/09/2011 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp


Cool. Are they going to have a Cod card or a Haddock card for Scotland,
I wonder?


I'm assuming Cardiff would have a Whale card.

I wonder how they came up with the term Oystercard to begin with, however?


I belief the official idea was some sort of association with
containing pearls. Of course Hong Kong has the octopus card too.


World is your Oyster?

"Pearl" is Sydney.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Graeme Wall September 20th 11 07:33 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On 20/09/2011 18:51, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 20/09/2011 10:36, bob wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:52 pm,
wrote:
On 19/09/2011 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card

http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp

Cool. Are they going to have a Cod card or a Haddock card for Scotland,
I wonder?


I'm assuming Cardiff would have a Whale card.

I wonder how they came up with the term Oystercard to begin with,
however?


I belief the official idea was some sort of association with
containing pearls. Of course Hong Kong has the octopus card too.


World is your Oyster?

"Pearl" is Sydney.


Pearl's a singer...

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Graham. September 20th 11 07:36 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

"Mizter T" wrote in message ...

On Sep 19, 8:42 pm, "Robin" wrote:

London should have had the Jellied Eel card of course.


But could never have happened:

a. not something the Islington political class eat*; and
b. not multicultural - indeed quite culturally insensitive.


Sigh... welcome to the comments section of Britain's best selling mid-
market paper.


*There was the wonderful (no doubt apocryphal) story of Peter Mandelson
going into a chippie to try to boost his older Labour credential and
asking for haddock, chips and "some of that guacamole" - mistaking the
mushy peas for avocado dip.


If we were to want to talk about vaguely transport related apocryphal
sayings, then how that which was (and still is) widely misattributed
to Maggie about men over 26/30 on buses being failures in life.

What other classic misattribitions or apocryphal stories are there in
the railway (or public transport) world?

I know of somebody who refers to the working classes as "bus poor"

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Railsigns.co.uk September 20th 11 08:07 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
On Sep 20, 8:33*pm, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 20/09/2011 18:51, Arthur Figgis wrote:

On 20/09/2011 10:36, bob wrote:
"Pearl" is Sydney.


Pearl's a singer...

So's Sydney Devine (apparently).

John Levine September 20th 11 11:48 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
Cool. Are they going to have a Cod card or a Haddock card for Scotland,
I wonder? ...


Seattle (US) has an Orca card.

San Francisco has a Clipper card, The logo is a pattern of triangles
that sort of resembles a square rigged ship.

Evidently it's a trend.

R's,
John

Martin Rich[_2_] September 21st 11 07:25 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

"John Levine" wrote in message
...
Cool. Are they going to have a Cod card or a Haddock card for
Scotland,
I wonder? ...


Seattle (US) has an Orca card.

San Francisco has a Clipper card, The logo is a pattern of triangles
that sort of resembles a square rigged ship.

Evidently it's a trend.


.... and Boston has the Charlie card - principally a nod to 'Charlie on the
MTA', and so surely the only transport ticket named after a protest song
prompted by a fare rise, but also presumably a reference to the Charles
River

Martin


Mizter T September 21st 11 07:55 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 

On Sep 21, 8:25*pm, "Martin Rich" wrote:
[...]
... and Boston has the Charlie card - principally a nod to 'Charlie on the
MTA', and so surely the only transport ticket named after a protest song
prompted by a fare rise, but also presumably a reference to the Charles
River


Whilst my suggestions upthread weren't entirely serious, I did have
the Charlie Card in mind when pondering alternative potential names
for London's smartcard - I do wonder whether leftfield suggestions
might have got a bit more of a look in had the name been decided upon
directly by TfL (and hence the Mayor) rather than the PFI outfit
Transys that was responsible for implementing and running the
smartcard system.

Recliner[_2_] September 21st 11 08:51 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
"Mizter T" wrote in message

On Sep 21, 8:25 pm, "Martin Rich" wrote:
[...]
... and Boston has the Charlie card - principally a nod to 'Charlie
on the MTA', and so surely the only transport ticket named after a
protest song prompted by a fare rise, but also presumably a
reference to the Charles River


Whilst my suggestions upthread weren't entirely serious, I did have
the Charlie Card in mind when pondering alternative potential names
for London's smartcard - I do wonder whether leftfield suggestions
might have got a bit more of a look in had the name been decided upon
directly by TfL (and hence the Mayor) rather than the PFI outfit
Transys that was responsible for implementing and running the
smartcard system.


I presume you're suggesting it might have been called the Newt card?



Nick Leverton September 21st 11 09:37 PM

Marine themed smartcards
 
In article ,
Recliner wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote in message


Whilst my suggestions upthread weren't entirely serious, I did have
the Charlie Card in mind when pondering alternative potential names
for London's smartcard - I do wonder whether leftfield suggestions
might have got a bit more of a look in had the name been decided upon
directly by TfL (and hence the Mayor) rather than the PFI outfit
Transys that was responsible for implementing and running the
smartcard system.


I presume you're suggesting it might have been called the Newt card?


We're just fortunate it's not called the Boriscard.

Nick
--
Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 29th March 2010)
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

Recliner[_2_] September 22nd 11 09:12 AM

Marine themed smartcards
 
"Mizter T" wrote in message

On Sep 21, 8:25 pm, "Martin Rich" wrote:
[...]
... and Boston has the Charlie card - principally a nod to 'Charlie
on the MTA', and so surely the only transport ticket named after a
protest song prompted by a fare rise, but also presumably a
reference to the Charles River


Whilst my suggestions upthread weren't entirely serious, I did have
the Charlie Card in mind when pondering alternative potential names
for London's smartcard - I do wonder whether leftfield suggestions
might have got a bit more of a look in had the name been decided upon
directly by TfL (and hence the Mayor) rather than the PFI outfit
Transys that was responsible for implementing and running the
smartcard system.


[Re-posted as the previous attempt seems to have disappeared]
I presume you're suggesting it might have been called the Newt card?



[email protected] September 22nd 11 11:17 AM

Marine themed smartcards
 
In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2011\09\19 18:05, Matthew Dickinson wrote:
Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card

http://www.walruscard.com/index.asp

That's actually a Beatles theme!


Good grief! I thought of the Beatles song straight away when I heard of the
name. At the time I didn't know it was anything to do with Liverpool!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] September 22nd 11 11:17 AM

Marine themed smartcards
 
In article ,
() wrote:

On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:05:16 -0700 (PDT), Matthew Dickinson
wrote:

Merseytravel have followed the trend for marine-named smartcards by
introducing the Walrus card


Only valid for travel in Ballast wagons ?


Along with a Sealion card?

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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