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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:20:20 +0100, "GT" lied:

"The Revd" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:58:24 +0100, "GT" lied:

"Recliner" wrote in message
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wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

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wrote in message
...
Though I heard about this on LBC this morning too so I suspect it isn't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...strian-crossin
g-devout-Jews-cross-road.html

http://percyweller.wordpress.com/201...every-90-secs/

I would suggest that if these religious nutters really are so hamstrung by
their interpretation of their religion they just stay inside instead of
everyone else being inconvenienced - including probably the large number
of
ordinary jews that live in that area.

B2003

This article was tucked away on something like page 43 of the paper. Imagine
if it had been specially arranged for muslims to cross the road; it would be
front page headlines in the Daily Mail.

Now Muslims Stop Our Traffic!!!

Exactly. It is likely to cause huge traffic queues and air pollution; which of course is why TfL acceded to this absurd demand instead of telling them plainly and bluntly where to get off. This silly nonsense is yet another reason why TfL should never have started this waste-of-money project.

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On Oct 3, 1:01*pm, The Revd wrote:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:59:29 +0100, "Recliner"





wrote:
wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew like
me pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble taking
advantage of it. Apparently it's OK for non-Jews to cause work to be
done that benefits Jews, but not for those same Jews to cause it.

It's even OK to employ a "shabbos goy" to do things which they aren't
themselves allowed to do.

And, of course, the use of technology to circumvent the spirit of the
law while keeping to the letter of the law is also OK, as in the use
of ovens with 'shabbos' settings.

When all else fails, they set up an "eruv" like the one in Golders
Green where all kinds of shabbos violations are permissible within its
borders.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why do the Orthdox believe that Almighty God needs to "rest" on the
7th day? That surely is a mortal attribute?

And as for the Sabbath itself:

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the
things that are God’s." (Matthew 22:21)

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:16:58 +0100, "Recliner"
wrote:

"The Revd" wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:59:29 +0100, "Recliner"
wrote:

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night, headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a
crowd of people waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button,
they were happy to join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs
an all-floors stopping service on the Shabbat, but the others work
normally. If a non-Jew like me pressed the button for one of those
lifts, they had no trouble taking advantage of it. Apparently it's
OK for non-Jews to cause work to be done that benefits Jews, but not
for those same Jews to cause it.

It's even OK to employ a "shabbos goy" to do things which they aren't
themselves allowed to do.

Yes, I gather they employ Christian Palestinians in Jerusalem for such
tasks.

Yes. Or even Palestinian Muslims.

And, of course, the use of technology to circumvent the spirit of the
law while keeping to the letter of the law is also OK, as in the use
of ovens with 'shabbos' settings.

Yes, I was told about such devices -- eg, food warmers in hospitals
which are plugged into electrical sockets which periodically switch off
for a minute or so during the Shabbat. It's apparently OK to plug them
in when the light's off, knowing that it'll come on shortly to keep the
food warm. It seemed completely ridiculous.

The ingenuity is endless.

When all else fails, they set up an "eruv" like the one in Golders
Green where all kinds of shabbos violations are permissible within its
borders.

I suppose it's much like playing a computer game -- one group comes up
with a set of bizarre, invented rules, that others then try to outsmart.
But they shouldn't be allowed to inflict their fantasies on others.

But, but, to not allow their fantasies to be imposed upon one is
'anti-semitic'®™!

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Sunil"
wrote:

On Oct 3, 1:01*pm, The Revd wrote:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:59:29 +0100, "Recliner"





wrote:
wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew like
me pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble taking
advantage of it. Apparently it's OK for non-Jews to cause work to be
done that benefits Jews, but not for those same Jews to cause it.

It's even OK to employ a "shabbos goy" to do things which they aren't
themselves allowed to do.

And, of course, the use of technology to circumvent the spirit of the
law while keeping to the letter of the law is also OK, as in the use
of ovens with 'shabbos' settings.

When all else fails, they set up an "eruv" like the one in Golders
Green where all kinds of shabbos violations are permissible within its
borders.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why do the Orthdox believe that Almighty God needs to "rest" on the
7th day? That surely is a mortal attribute?

I don't think it means "rest" in the mortal sense.

And as for the Sabbath itself:

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the
things that are God’s." (Matthew 22:21)

Quite so.

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On 03/10/2011 21:13, Dr. Sunil wrote:


Why do the Orthdox believe that Almighty God needs to "rest" on the
7th day? That surely is a mortal attribute?

And as for the Sabbath itself:

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the
things that are God’s." (Matthew 22:21)

there's not a lot of point in quoting the *New* Testament to Jews!
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In message , Recliner
writes
"NM" wrote in message

On Oct 3, 11:02 am, "GT" wrote:


This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Sweetcorn? I hope none of them are fitted with heart
pacemakers. :-)

I think the made-up religious rules are conveniently relaxed for
live-saving medical technology (Jerusalem hospital work seven-days a
week, after all) -- maybe someone should have deemed that pedestrian
crossing buttons come into this category? Of course, some Christian
nutters would rather die than accept a life-saving blood transfusion,
and they inflict this on their children, too.

There are nice exemptions for being able to eat pork and bacon if it is
a "medical emergency". More difficult to engineer than it should be :(
(engineer being the fail word too - naughty)

That said, hypothetically speaking, if you do fall of the bandwagon, it
does mean that eating pork and bacon becomes more pleasurable than most
Christians/other peoples will ever be able to appreciate eating the same
food (due to the knowledge that one is eating prohibited food).

And, just about, slightly on topic. There's a very good all night
beigel bakery on Brick Lane between Liverpool Street Station and
Shoreditch High Street Station. I recommend their salt beef beigels.
The shop is not certified kosher, so that reduces the potential cost by
50%.

--
Paul G
Typing from Kentish Town

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In message , The Revd
writes
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:23:06 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid breaking
their law: The religious law prohibits them from using electricity or
operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do they think the green man
is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

It's horse****. They can't stop electricity being used around them
but the jew sabbath laws prevent them from initiating it by, for
example, flicking a light switch. Entering a dark room with movement
sensors which activate lights is kosher.

As has been indicated elsewhere by other (intelligent) people the above
example categorically that example is invalid as that would be turning
the lights off and on by means of oneself as the trigger - unless you
were talking about any day which isn't the Sabbath. But why would an
understanding of other people's values, cultural heritage and religious
beliefs ever be important to making an argument...?

Anyway. Enough feeding of the troll for me.

--
Paul G
Typing from Kentish Town

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"Huge" wrote in message

On 2011-10-03, Paul G wrote:
In message , Recliner

There are nice exemptions for being able to eat pork and bacon if it
is a "medical emergency".

Actually, there is a blanket exemption for all the rules of Judaism if
there's a life threatening situation. Not just medical emergencies.

Wouldn't crossing a busy road count as a life threatening situation?

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"Recliner" wrote in message
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"Huge" wrote in message

On 2011-10-03, Paul G wrote:
In message , Recliner

There are nice exemptions for being able to eat pork and bacon if it
is a "medical emergency".

Actually, there is a blanket exemption for all the rules of Judaism if
there's a life threatening situation. Not just medical emergencies.

Wouldn't crossing a busy road count as a life threatening situation?
Only if you had to get to the other side of the road to save a life or
because your life was being threatened.

Otherwise they should be made to choose: either obey the law and suffer the
inconvenience or choose to disregard the law and live in the real world. But
don't expect anyone else to bend over backwards to accommodate your
self-chosen laws.

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 23:06:05 +0100, Paul G
wrote:

In message , The Revd
writes
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:23:06 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid breaking
their law: The religious law prohibits them from using electricity or
operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do they think the green man
is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

It's horse****. They can't stop electricity being used around them
but the jew sabbath laws prevent them from initiating it by, for
example, flicking a light switch. Entering a dark room with movement
sensors which activate lights is kosher.

As has been indicated elsewhere by other (intelligent) people the above
example categorically that example is invalid as that would be turning
the lights off and on by means of oneself as the trigger - unless you
were talking about any day which isn't the Sabbath.

No, it wouldn't. There's no physical turning on of the light.

But why would an
understanding of other people's values, cultural heritage and religious
beliefs ever be important to making an argument...?

That's what the discussion is about, dickhead.

Anyway. Enough feeding of the troll for me.

Boo hoo.

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On 4 Oct 2011 08:59:03 GMT, Huge wrote:

On 2011-10-03, Paul G wrote:
In message , The Revd
writes
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:23:06 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid breaking
their law: The religious law prohibits them from using electricity or
operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do they think the green man
is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

It's horse****. They can't stop electricity being used around them
but the jew sabbath laws prevent them from initiating it by, for
example, flicking a light switch. Entering a dark room with movement
sensors which activate lights is kosher.

As has been indicated elsewhere by other (intelligent) people the above
example categorically that example is invalid as that would be turning
the lights off and on by means of oneself as the trigger - unless you
were talking about any day which isn't the Sabbath. But why would an
understanding of other people's values, cultural heritage and religious
beliefs ever be important to making an argument...?

Well, quite. It's also not allowed to ask a non-Jew to switch the lights
on, for the same reason.

Actually, it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbos_goy

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In uk.transport.london message 36851e16-fa56-4bbd-8a9b-d1c0024df52d@m5g
2000vbe.googlegroups.com, Mon, 3 Oct 2011 04:44:55, NM
posted:


I'm having a 'senior moment', although living for years in London I
cannot place Henley's corner, tried google maps but they think it's in
Canada, I remember junction A406 and A5 as Staples Corner (there used
to be a mattress factory there) Is it the junction at Stonebridge Park
just on the other side of the tracks from the Ace Cafe? if so where
was the Henleys (I presume Garage)?

Google Maps will happily find Henlys Corner (at 51.589829,-0.199835),
and so will Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_road_(London)#Henlys_Corner.
The OP's spelling is not reliable.

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PAS EXE etc. : http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/ - see in 00index.htm
Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

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On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:23:24 +0100, Steve Fitzgerald ]
wrote:

In message , Paul G
writes

And, just about, slightly on topic. There's a very good all night
beigel bakery on Brick Lane between Liverpool Street Station and
Shoreditch High Street Station. I recommend their salt beef beigels.
The shop is not certified kosher, so that reduces the potential cost by
50%.

Beigel Bake; a must visit after a night on the pop for us!

Of course, they're nothing at all like *real* bagels. But then, what
can you possibly expect?

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"The Revd" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:20:20 +0100, "GT" lied:

"The Revd" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:58:24 +0100, "GT" lied:

"Recliner" wrote in message
.. .
wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going down on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people - people who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists that we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons for you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting superstitious
behaviours?


are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

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On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:05:31 +0100, "GT" lied:

"The Revd" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:20:20 +0100, "GT" lied:

"The Revd" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:58:24 +0100, "GT" lied:

"Recliner" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going down on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people - people who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists that we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons for you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

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"The Revd" wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:05:31 +0100, "GT" lied:

"The Revd" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:20:20 +0100, "GT" lied:

"The Revd" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:58:24 +0100, "GT" lied:

"Recliner" wrote in message
...
wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going down on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people - people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

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"The Revd" wrote in message
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"The Revd" wrote in message
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om...
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:58:24 +0100, "GT" lied:

"Recliner" wrote in message
m...
wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going down on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people - people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither. You, on the other hand, are a liar. And a cocksucker.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'®™ and wanting to kill people? How stupid are YOU?

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people - people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'®T and wanting to kill people? How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people - people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

I'm still not going to read two paragraphs of your lies. But I can
tell without reading them that they don't.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

And the fact that you're not denying it confirms it.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'®T and wanting to kill people? How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

Loads of it. Now tell me how in today's Britain 'anti-semtism'®™ is
tantamount to wanting to kill people.

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from
using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What
exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd
of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a
non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select
a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the
facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence
found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few
hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going
down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people -
people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have
therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists
that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons
for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that
you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

I'm still not going to read two paragraphs of your lies. But I can
tell without reading them that they don't.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

And the fact that you're not denying it confirms it.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'®T and wanting to kill people? How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

Loads of it. Now tell me how in today's Britain 'anti-semtism'®T is
tantamount to wanting to kill people.

Why. You are the one who raised the anti-semitic issue, so you tell us...

Why do you keep adding the registered trademark symbol, a capital T and
apostrophies round the term?

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wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from
using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What
exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd
of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a
non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select
a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the
facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence
found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few
hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going
down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people -
people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have
therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists
that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons
for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that
you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

I'm still not going to read two paragraphs of your lies. *But I can
tell without reading them that they don't.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. *And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

And the fact that you're not denying it confirms it.

are you 'anti-semitic'�T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'�T and wanting to kill people? *How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

Loads of it. *Now tell me how in today's Britain 'anti-semtism'�T is
tantamount to wanting to kill people.

Why. You are the one who raised the anti-semitic issue, so you tell us...

Why do you keep adding the registered trademark symbol, a capital T and
apostrophies round the term?

Trollspeak.

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wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from
using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What
exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd
of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a
non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select
a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the
facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence
found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few
hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going
down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people -
people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have
therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists
that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons
for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that
you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

I'm still not going to read two paragraphs of your lies. But I can
tell without reading them that they don't.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

And the fact that you're not denying it confirms it.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'®T and wanting to kill people? How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

Loads of it. Now tell me how in today's Britain 'anti-semtism'®T is
tantamount to wanting to kill people.

Why.

Was that a question.

You are the one who raised the anti-semitic issue, so you tell us...

It has nothing to do with killing anyone.

Why do you keep adding the registered trademark symbol, a capital T and
apostrophies round the term?

It's their own brand of racism and is protected.

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wrote in message

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from
using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What
exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd
of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a
non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to select
a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the
facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence
found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few
hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going
down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people -
people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have
therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists
that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons
for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that
you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

I'm still not going to read two paragraphs of your lies. *But I can
tell without reading them that they don't.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. *And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

And the fact that you're not denying it confirms it.

are you 'anti-semitic'�T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'�T and wanting to kill people? *How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

Loads of it. *Now tell me how in today's Britain 'anti-semtism'�T is
tantamount to wanting to kill people.

Why. You are the one who raised the anti-semitic issue, so you tell us...

Why do you keep adding the registered trademark symbol, a capital T and
apostrophies round the term?

Trollspeak.

In your case, thickspeak.

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
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This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to
avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from
using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What
exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but
can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a
Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd
of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a
non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to
select
a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the
facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence
found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands
of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few
hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going
down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions
acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved
from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people -
people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have
therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists
that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't
have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons
for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that
you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

I'm still not going to read two paragraphs of your lies. But I can
tell without reading them that they don't.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

And the fact that you're not denying it confirms it.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied
your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'®T and wanting to kill people? How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

Loads of it. Now tell me how in today's Britain 'anti-semtism'®T is
tantamount to wanting to kill people.

Why.

Was that a question.

Yes. Was yours?

You are the one who raised the anti-semitic issue, so you tell us...

It has nothing to do with killing anyone.

Hitler didn't agree with you.

Why do you keep adding the registered trademark symbol, a capital T and
apostrophies round the term?

It's their own brand of racism and is protected.

Racism? Judaism isn't a race. What makes you think a religion is a race?

Henleys corner crossing - someone tell me this is a joke
 

In message om, at
16:26:05 on Fri, 7 Oct 2011, GT remarked:

Hitler didn't agree with you.

Time for you two to "get a room", preferably in the name of Godwin.
--
Roland Perry

Henleys corner crossing - someone tell me this is a joke
 

In article om, (GT)
wrote:

Racism? Judaism isn't a race. What makes you think a religion is a
race?

Wrong. Go and do some reading.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to
avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from
using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What
exactly
do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

I think they're not supposed to *cause* work to be done, but
can
take
advantage of things that are happening anyway.

For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a
Friday
night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd
of
people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were
happy
to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors
stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a
non-Jew
like
me
pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble
taking
advantage of it.

Of course, once in the lift, none of them would be able to
select
a
floor!!
I'd just take the lift to the top floor and get out.

Why

To point out how rediculous superstition (religion) can be!

It isn't. Atheism is, though.

Well, lets see... An atheist is a person who has examined all the
facts,
come to an intelligent and logical decision based on the evidence
found
after billions of people have researched the theory over thousands
of
years.
Atheists do not follow superstitions about facing east every few
hours,
refusing to press buttons on saturdays, fiddling choir boys, going
down
on
their knees to talk to clouds in the hope that a non-existent entity
will
save them from something and all the other strange, superstitions
acts
that
religious people feel compelled to do in the fear that they won't be
saved
from something (its not even clear what they want to be saved
from?).

On the other side of the sanity divide we have religious people -
people
who
have either ignored or failed to understand the facts and have
therefore
jumped to an illogical and bizarre conclusion that something exists
that
we
can't see, touch, feel, measure, communicate with and that can't
have
any
impact whatsoever on our world. Did you ever figure out your reasons
for
you
and your faith's conclusion that god exists and your resulting
superstitious
behaviours?

Far too long to read.

Sorry about that - forgot you can't read. I'll shorten it for you...

You are both illogical and ignorant.

I am neither.

Oh sorry - I though you said you were religous. The paragraph above that
you
refused to read demonstrates that you are definitely one of them.

I'm still not going to read two paragraphs of your lies. But I can
tell without reading them that they don't.

You, on the other hand, are a liar. And a cocksucker.

This is your opinion, not fact.

And the fact that you're not denying it confirms it.

are you 'anti-semitic'®T?

No.

You must be if you'd make jews walk down all those stairs.

Please explain how you made the leap from 'pointing out how silly a
superstition is' to 'wanting to kill people for following a certain
religion'?

Please explain why you think I did.

Why - are you so stupid that you don't know what you said? I said
something
about taking them to the wrong floor for a laugh, then you applied
your
usual twist and replied to call me anti-semitic.

Why do you 'think' there is a connection between being
'anti-semitic'®T and wanting to kill people? How stupid are YOU?

Did you study ANY history at school?

Loads of it. Now tell me how in today's Britain 'anti-semtism'®T is
tantamount to wanting to kill people.

Why.

Was that a question.

Yes. Was yours?

Of course? That's why it didn't have a question mark.

You are the one who raised the anti-semitic issue, so you tell us...

It has nothing to do with killing anyone.

Hitler didn't agree with you.

That was just one incident. 'Anti-semitism'®™ is over 2000 years old.

Why do you keep adding the registered trademark symbol, a capital T and
apostrophies round the term?

It's their own brand of racism and is protected.

Racism? Judaism isn't a race. What makes you think a religion is a race?

I'm talking about jews, not jewdism. A jew can be any religion it
wants to be. Or none at all. There was even a jew cardinal in the RC
church.

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On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:36:46 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message om, at
16:26:05 on Fri, 7 Oct 2011, GT remarked:

Hitler didn't agree with you.

Time for you two to "get a room", preferably in the name of Godwin.

Time for you to go **** yourself.

Henleys corner crossing - someone tell me this is a joke
 

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(The Revd) wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:36:46 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message om, at
16:26:05 on Fri, 7 Oct 2011, GT remarked:

Hitler didn't agree with you.

Time for you two to "get a room", preferably in the name of Godwin.

Time for you to go **** yourself.

That's alternative, as long as you go somewhere else, I don't think most
here will be too bothered where.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Oct 7, 7:47*pm, The Revd wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:36:46 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message om, at
16:26:05 on Fri, 7 Oct 2011, GT remarked:

Hitler didn't agree with you.

Time for you two to "get a room", preferably in the name of Godwin.

Time for you to go **** yourself.

What a remarkably unimaginative response - is that *really* the best
you could do? I pity you.

Henleys corner crossing - someone tell me this is a joke
 

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:54:03 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On Oct 7, 7:47*pm, The Revd wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:36:46 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message om, at
16:26:05 on Fri, 7 Oct 2011, GT remarked:

Hitler didn't agree with you.

Time for you two to "get a room", preferably in the name of Godwin.

Time for you to go **** yourself.

What a remarkably unimaginative response - is that *really* the best
you could do? I pity you.

What makes you 'think' a remarkably unimaginative response such as the
one I replied to deserves any better? I **** on you.

Henleys corner crossing - someone tell me this is a joke
 

On Oct 3, 10:52*am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message ,
writesThough I heard about this on LBC this morning too so I suspect it isn't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ree-pedestrian
-crossin
g-devout-Jews-cross-road.html

http://percyweller.wordpress.com/201...be-held-every-...

I would suggest that if these religious nutters really are so hamstrung by
their interpretation of their religion they just stay inside instead of
everyone else being inconvenienced - including probably the large number of
ordinary jews that live in that area.

This was discussed on London local radio station LBC's phone-in at
around 9am. The traffic will be stopped every 90 seconds, regardless
whether anyone wants to cross or not.

The first caller was a rabbi from (I think) Finchley. He thought the
whole idea was nuts. He himself observed the Shabat tradition of not
using things mechanical and electrical - and this indeed did cause him
problems when using pedestrian controlled crossings. His solution was to
wait until someone else pressed the button or, if there was a gap in the
traffic, crossed anyway. His compromise solution was that the gaps
between the crossing times could be made much longer - up to four or
five minute.

Sounds sensible.

Henleys corner crossing - someone tell me this is a joke
 

On Oct 3, 12:15*pm, The Revd wrote:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:06:24 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

Though I heard about this on LBC this morning too so I suspect it isn't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-free-pedestr...
g-devout-Jews-cross-road.html

http://percyweller.wordpress.com/201...be-held-every-...

I would suggest that if these religious nutters really are so hamstrung by
their interpretation of their religion they just stay inside instead of
everyone else being inconvenienced - including probably the large number of
ordinary jews that live in that area.

B2003

There's no such thing as an "ordinary jew". *They're all irrational,
hysterical ragheads. *And Transport for London is sucking their
rectums.

For fifteen years I have been utilizing Usenet. In all that time you
are the first "creature" I have ever killfiled the first time I saw
its post. You really are a revolting specimin. Thank G-d for the
JDL. You will enjoy my killfile thhere is plenty of scum in there.

really nice thread...