Battersea extension up in smoke?
 

In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:
Nick Leverton remarked:
A lot of business ideas suppose that they can gross a lot of money, and a
lot of them fail to meet their goals. Of more interest, if anyone knows,
would be what contribution the project was actually expected to make to
the Northern Line Battersea extension.

The power station developer was the "sponsor and manager" for the
extension.

http://www.northernlineextension.com...ess_report_no_
1_final.pdf

There are some interesting maps, eg p8. The price depends on the route
and I presume it's the £459m one. They seem to have gone for the highest
density development scenario on page 10, but it's possible (if this was
also the announcement of the choice of route) that the developer could
only have paid for the cheaper route option, more on cash-flow than
cost/benefit grounds.

Thanks, an interesting read. It seems the NLE will be required to cope
with travel needs for any but the residential-only development options
in the area, and even for those it would still be a good idea. So it's
presumably unlikely to die just because the developers have gone under.

However the funding is still a work package to be subsequently delivered !

Nick
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Battersea extension up in smoke?
 

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Battersea extension up in smoke?
 

On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:45:18AM +0000, d wrote:

I imagine given the choice most people would prefer to get a tube direct
into central london than have to get a mainline train and change at
victoria or waterloo. Imagine you're standing at Vauxhall and want to get
to the west end - do you hop on a victoria line to oxford circus or wait
20 mins for a mainline train to go a mile to victoria then get on it?
Its a no brainer.

Where does that 20 minutes come from (and, come to think of it, where
does the train from vauxhall to victoria come from as well)?

Battersea Park has ten trains an hour to Victoria, off-peak, and
Queenstown Road has eight an hour to Waterloo off-peak. Vauxhall has
*26* trains per hour to Waterloo, off-peak.

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On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:49:18 +0000
David Cantrell wrote:
I imagine given the choice most people would prefer to get a tube direct
into central london than have to get a mainline train and change at
victoria or waterloo. Imagine you're standing at Vauxhall and want to get
to the west end - do you hop on a victoria line to oxford circus or wait
20 mins for a mainline train to go a mile to victoria then get on it?
Its a no brainer.

Where does that 20 minutes come from (and, come to think of it, where
does the train from vauxhall to victoria come from as well)?

I got off a train from clapham junction to victoria at vauxhall a few years
back. Perhaps that service doesn't exist any more.

Battersea Park has ten trains an hour to Victoria, off-peak, and
Queenstown Road has eight an hour to Waterloo off-peak. Vauxhall has
*26* trains per hour to Waterloo, off-peak.

A waterloo train stops at vauxhall almost once every 2 mins? Sorry , I find
that hard to believe. They'd be backed up all the way down the line.

B2003

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In message , d
writes

I got off a train from clapham junction to victoria at vauxhall a few years
back. Perhaps that service doesn't exist any more.

No such line exists (or existed). Trains from CJ to Vauxhall all
terminate at Waterloo. Trains from CJ to Victoria cannot go via
Vauxhall.

A waterloo train stops at vauxhall almost once every 2 mins? Sorry , I find
that hard to believe. They'd be backed up all the way down the line.

Which line? Eight parallel lines pass through Vauxhall. Normally, only
platforms 2, 3, 4, 7 and 8 are used for stoppers, but there's ample
capacity for a very high service frequency.

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On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:04:36 +0000
Paul Terry wrote:
In message , d
writes

I got off a train from clapham junction to victoria at vauxhall a few years
back. Perhaps that service doesn't exist any more.

No such line exists (or existed). Trains from CJ to Vauxhall all
terminate at Waterloo. Trains from CJ to Victoria cannot go via
Vauxhall.

Yeah , you're right, I must be getting my journeys confused. I used to do so
many they've all merged into one in my head.

B2003

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wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:49:18 +0000
David Cantrell wrote:

Battersea Park has ten trains an hour to Victoria, off-peak, and
Queenstown Road has eight an hour to Waterloo off-peak. Vauxhall has
*26* trains per hour to Waterloo, off-peak.

A waterloo train stops at vauxhall almost once every 2 mins? Sorry , I
find
that hard to believe. They'd be backed up all the way down the line.

You'd only need to check live departures for confirmation:

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/servic...dep/VXH/WAT/To

Paul S

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On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 03:33:44PM +0000, d wrote:
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:49:18 +0000
David Cantrell wrote:
Where does that 20 minutes come from (and, come to think of it, where
does the train from vauxhall to victoria come from as well)?
I got off a train from clapham junction to victoria at vauxhall a few years
back. Perhaps that service doesn't exist any more.

I don't believe you. A quick look at a map would demonstrate the
infeasibility of that.

Either the train was diverted to Waterloo because of engineering work,
or you got on the wrong train by mistake.

Battersea Park has ten trains an hour to Victoria, off-peak, and
Queenstown Road has eight an hour to Waterloo off-peak. Vauxhall has
*26* trains per hour to Waterloo, off-peak.
A waterloo train stops at vauxhall almost once every 2 mins? Sorry , I find
that hard to believe. They'd be backed up all the way down the line.

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