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Tfl Christmas Travel Information
Does anyone know when TfL are planning to release their information on
what services they are going to run over the Christmas period? Or are Tfl waiting for the result of the strike ballot on December 14th? |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
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s.com of Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:28:11 in uk.transport.london, Paul writes Does anyone know when TfL are planning to release their information on what services they are going to run over the Christmas period? Or are Tfl waiting for the result of the strike ballot on December 14th? I don't know how this relates to the OP's enquiry, but it seems tangentially relevant. The Journey Planner at http://journeyplanner.tfl ..gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en shows "Information regarding services over the Christmas period will be available in mid- December", if I ask for a journey from Stratford to Canary Wharf and specify an arrival time on 28 Dec 2011. If I use the large print version at journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/bcl/XSLT_ TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en to make the same enquiry, no information of any kind is returned. I think my report of this to the LU CSC was done, yesterday. A fix has yet to arrive. ;) -- Walter Briscoe |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
On Dec 8, 2:25*pm, Walter Briscoe wrote:
In message s.com of Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:28:11 in uk.transport.london, Paul writes Does anyone know when TfL are planning to release their information on what services they are going to run over the Christmas period? Or are Tfl waiting for the result of the strike ballot on December 14th? I don't know how this relates to the OP's enquiry, but it seems tangentially relevant. The Journey Planner at http://journeyplanner.tfl .gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en shows "Information regarding services over the Christmas period will be available in mid- December", if I ask for a journey from Stratford to Canary Wharf and specify an arrival time on 28 Dec 2011. If I use the large print version at journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/bcl/XSLT_ TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en to make the same enquiry, no information of any kind is returned. I think my report of this to the LU CSC was done, yesterday. A fix has yet to arrive. ;) -- Walter Briscoe Presumably "mid December" then means about midnight on 24th December. After all, Blackfriars tube station was supposed to open in "late 2011", and I saw a notice at Kings Cross this morning confirming that it would open in "very late 2011" (ie 26 February 2012) |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
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s.com of Fri, 9 Dec 2011 00:04:49 in uk.transport.london, Paul writes On Dec 8, 2:25*pm, Walter Briscoe wrote: In message s.com of Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:28:11 in uk.transport.london, Paul writes Does anyone know when TfL are planning to release their information on what services they are going to run over the Christmas period? Or are Tfl waiting for the result of the strike ballot on December 14th? I don't know how this relates to the OP's enquiry, but it seems tangentially relevant. The Journey Planner at http://journeyplanner.tfl .gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en shows "Information regarding services over the Christmas period will be available in mid- December", if I ask for a journey from Stratford to Canary Wharf and specify an arrival time on 28 Dec 2011. If I use the large print version at journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/bcl/XSLT_ TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en to make the same enquiry, no information of any kind is returned. I think my report of this to the LU CSC was done, yesterday. A fix has yet to arrive. ;) -- Walter Briscoe Presumably "mid December" then means about midnight on 24th December. I thought I was cynical. After all, Blackfriars tube station was supposed to open in "late 2011", and I saw a notice at Kings Cross this morning confirming that it would open in "very late 2011" (ie 26 February 2012) A few days ago, the planned closures showed Blackfriars opening in the week before Christmas. It now shows it closed on Jan 6, 2012. I was through there some days ago. A westbound District line train announced the next stop is Blackfriars. An eastbound Circle line train announced the next station is closed. LU did deliver the return of Tottenham Court Road to the Northern line on the scheduled date of Nov 28. I am not surprised there has been some slip in a 3 year program. http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.../COUNTDOWN-TO- COMPLETION-AT-BLACKFRIARS-194f/SearchCategoryID-8.aspx confirms 26 February. -- Walter Briscoe |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
In message , at 15:01:52 on Fri, 9
Dec 2011, Walter Briscoe remarked: I am not surprised there has been some slip in a 3 year program. Cough! Splutter! It's called Thameslink 2000, not Thameslink 2018 (the latest date I think it's supposed to be finished). These people *invented* slippage. -- Roland Perry |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
On Dec 8, 10:28*am, Paul wrote: Does anyone know when TfL are planning to release their information on what services they are going to run over the Christmas period? Today: www.tfl.gov.uk/festivetravel Full "Christmas and New Year travel guide" published - direct link to the PDF: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/festive-leaflet.pdf (quite like the cover artwork) TfL Journey Planner however not yet showing journeys over the Christmas period (still says "mid-December"). |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
On Dec 9, 7:51*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Dec 8, 10:28*am, Paul wrote: Does anyone know when TfL are planning to release their information on what services they are going to run over the Christmas period? Today: www.tfl.gov.uk/festivetravel Full "Christmas and New Year travel guide" published - direct link to the PDF: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/festive-leaflet.pdf (quite like the cover artwork) TfL Journey Planner however not yet showing journeys over the Christmas period (still says "mid-December"). Thank you. I still think there is a case for running a bus service on Christmas Day. If there was a special service on all the night bus and 24 hour routes, running from about 9am on Christmas Day, that would give reasonable coverage to most areas. The lack of public transport on Christmas Day is a real pain to those who don't have a car. Edinburgh has a skeleton service on Christmas Day, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in London. Perhaps someone could sponsor free travel, like they do on New Years Eve. |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
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Tfl Christmas Travel Information
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2011 21:55:41 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield writes On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:28:11 -0800 (PST), Paul wrote: Does anyone know when TfL are planning to release their information on what services they are going to run over the Christmas period? Or are Tfl waiting for the result of the strike ballot on December 14th? All released today http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/13658.aspx http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...ve-leaflet.pdf Thanks, Paul. I suppose they will update the Journey Planners at some time. -- Walter Briscoe |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
On Dec 10, 10:06*am, wrote:
In article , (Paul) wrote: I still think there is a case for running a bus service on Christmas Day. If there was a special service on all the night bus and 24 hour routes, running from about 9am on Christmas Day, that would give reasonable coverage to most areas. The lack of public transport on Christmas Day is a real pain to those who don't have a car. Edinburgh has a skeleton service on Christmas Day, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in London. Perhaps someone could sponsor free travel, like they do on New Years Eve. The question is whether Edinburgh has any service on New Year's Day. That is the bigger holiday North of the border. -- Colin Rosenstiel Edinburgh does have a service on New Years Day See http://www.lothianbuses.com/images/s...s/XMAS2011.pdf for details. It includes, for example, a service to the Royal Infirmary, so that people can visit someone in hospital. I do think a similar level of service could be provided in London. I have a copy of the leaflet "Buses Running in London on December 25th 2001", which was the last year there was any significant level of service on Christmas Day. It included service 729 from Wood Green to Streatham via day routes 29 and 159, service 712 from Peckham to Hammersmith via day route 12, and service 755 from Central London to Wimbledon and Morden. All routes ran every 30 minutes from about 9am to 8pm. No travelcards were accepted, and there was a premium fare of £3. I do think there is a case for doing something similar now. |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
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Tfl Christmas Travel Information
On Dec 10, 2:48*pm, Paul Corfield wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 06:21:51 -0800 (PST), Paul wrote: I do think a similar level of service could be provided in London. *I have a copy of the leaflet "Buses Running in London on December 25th 2001", which was the last year there was any significant level of service on Christmas Day. It included service 729 from Wood Green to Streatham via day routes 29 and 159, service 712 from Peckham to Hammersmith via day route 12, and service 755 from Central London to Wimbledon and Morden. Sounds like a Go Ahead London type operation given their commercial routes are numbered in the 7xx series. Akin to London General (Go-Ahead) service on Christmas Day between Heathrow and Gatwick - route number 847 (according to the TfL leaflet though no number is mention on LG's website), so not in the 7xx series but whatever - which I think is a new occurance this year. Eight services each way during the day - seems a little pricey, though it's cheaper the more passengers you have (one adult GBP40, two are GBP70, three GBP90 and four GBP100). It seems that National Express don't serve this route at all on Xmas day (has that always been so?), but I do wonder just how much more expensive a (mini)cab might be, even on the 25th? http://www.londongeneral.co.uk/bus-services/page_296.html All routes ran every 30 minutes from about 9am to 8pm. No travelcards were accepted, and there was a premium fare of £3. I do think there is a case for doing something similar now. Was it not the case that these routes were not supported by LRT / TfL and therefore were all commercial ventures? * TfL would have had to have agreed to the London Service Permit request but the biggest issue is having a unique network for one day only that would not be shown on any of the standardised publicity / stop plates / stop panels. *It also probably wouldn't show on the I-Bus system either. My recollection is that in more recent times they've all been commercial ventures. I'm not saying these issues are insurmountable but the lack of information or awareness would most likely be a reason for poor usage. The alternative is to run a variant of the night bus network but even that's not terribly clear given 24 hour routes and "N" prefix services. *What would actually operate? I've not been in London on Christmas Day for many years - I usually end up far away where bus services run entirely as normal but then Christmas is not a major public holiday in Asia. * Apart from tourists staying in the centre who might wish to get about is there any discernible demand from Londoners to travel across the City on Christmas Day? * I've no idea but has anyone done any research or polling in recent years? *Are the roads clogged solid with people trying to get about by taxi and car? Can't recall any research - interesting question - but I think one could say there'd be some demand if people were asked, it's just a question of whether that would be 'discernible demand', i.e. demand that one could discern into a reasonably sensible handful of routes. There normally seems to a fair amount of people moving around the place - nothing like 'clogged solid' though! |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
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, Mizter T writes it's cheaper the more passengers you have (one adult GBP40, two are GBP70, three GBP90 and four GBP100). It seems that National Express don't serve this route at all on Xmas day (has that always been so?), but I do wonder just how much more expensive a (mini)cab might be, even on the 25th? Even reputable mini-cabs charge double on Christmas Day, so expect to pay around GBP 140 for Heathrow to Gatwick. I think I'd opt for the 847, unless timing was absolutely critical. -- Paul Terry |
Tfl Christmas Travel Information
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writes In message , Mizter T writes it's cheaper the more passengers you have (one adult GBP40, two are GBP70, three GBP90 and four GBP100). It seems that National Express don't serve this route at all on Xmas day (has that always been so?), but I do wonder just how much more expensive a (mini)cab might be, even on the 25th? Even reputable mini-cabs charge double on Christmas Day, so expect to pay around GBP 140 for Heathrow to Gatwick. I think I'd opt for the 847, unless timing was absolutely critical. Licensed taxi (black cabs) only charge £4 more than the normal fare on Christmas Day and Boxing Day. There are a number of new Apps for black taxis including HailO and GetTaxi. If anyone wants to go to or from the Heathrow or Gatwick and London or the south coast late evening or early morning I may be able to help as I intend to work right through the night over the holiday periods. -- Mike Hughes A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England Interested in American trains real and model? Look here http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikehughes2011/ |
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