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Basil Jet[_2_] December 20th 11 10:02 PM

New boris bus breaks down
 
On 2011\12\20 18:02, John Williamson wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Which might mean that the (diesel) fuel gauge is also innacurate in
this early model.

Of course, if it's like the original Routemasters, the fuel gauge is a
piece of calibrated plywood which goes through the fuel filler.


Please explain.

Ross[_3_] December 20th 11 10:06 PM

New boris bus breaks down
 
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:02:04 +0000 [UTC], Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\12\20 18:02, John Williamson wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Which might mean that the (diesel) fuel gauge is also innacurate in
this early model.

Of course, if it's like the original Routemasters, the fuel gauge is a
piece of calibrated plywood which goes through the fuel filler.


Please explain.


I assume John is referring to a dipstick, which is also the way
Midland Red traditionally gauged fuel levels on its buses. There was
no fuel gauge dial/indicator in the cab itself.
--
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Basil Jet[_2_] December 21st 11 05:45 AM

New boris bus breaks down
 
On 2011\12\20 23:06, Ross wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:02:04 +0000 [UTC], Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\12\20 18:02, John Williamson wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Which might mean that the (diesel) fuel gauge is also innacurate in
this early model.

Of course, if it's like the original Routemasters, the fuel gauge is a
piece of calibrated plywood which goes through the fuel filler.


Please explain.


I assume John is referring to a dipstick, which is also the way
Midland Red traditionally gauged fuel levels on its buses. There was
no fuel gauge dial/indicator in the cab itself.


stares at screen in shock

John Williamson December 21st 11 07:40 AM

New boris bus breaks down
 
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\12\20 23:06, Ross wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:02:04 +0000 [UTC], Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\12\20 18:02, John Williamson wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Which might mean that the (diesel) fuel gauge is also innacurate in
this early model.

Of course, if it's like the original Routemasters, the fuel gauge is a
piece of calibrated plywood which goes through the fuel filler.

Please explain.


I assume John is referring to a dipstick, which is also the way
Midland Red traditionally gauged fuel levels on its buses. There was
no fuel gauge dial/indicator in the cab itself.


stares at screen in shock


Chuckle When they designed the London Buses in the '40s and '50s,
someone spent a lot of time working out how much fuel they would need to
do a full day's work, then put a tank in that held half as much fuel again.

The daily routine was that the driver and conductor on the last shift of
the day left the bus in a queue for the pump at the end of their shift,
and garage staff cleaned, fuelled and serviced it (If scheduled) for its
next day's work.

Drivers weren't even allowed to check the engine oil, but were allowed
to open the engine cover to check the water in the radiator, except on
vehicles where a water level alarm was fitted, in which case they were
allowed to push the test button. Fitting a fuel gauge just meant there
was something else to go wrong, so they didn't. The dipstick was only
for workshop use to determine whether the vehicle had enough fuel to get
to the central repair and refurbishmant facility.

Most of the big bus operators had similar systems. Bournemouth, for
instance, had a service lane in the garage into at least the '80s, and
the last digit of the fleet number matched the service rota day, so
every bus got a safety check every ten days, and a full service every month.

The operator I currently work for still has a very similar system, so
fuel gauges on buses are redundant.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Basil Jet[_2_] December 21st 11 11:37 AM

New boris bus breaks down
 
On 2011\12\21 08:40, John Williamson wrote:

Most of the big bus operators had similar systems. Bournemouth, for
instance, had a service lane in the garage into at least the '80s, and
the last digit of the fleet number matched the service rota day, so
every bus got a safety check every ten days,


.... except in February.

Roland Perry December 21st 11 12:10 PM

New boris bus breaks down
 
In message , at 12:37:12 on
Wed, 21 Dec 2011, Basil Jet remarked:
Most of the big bus operators had similar systems. Bournemouth, for
instance, had a service lane in the garage into at least the '80s, and
the last digit of the fleet number matched the service rota day, so
every bus got a safety check every ten days,


... except in February.


And all those double checks on 31st's followed by a 1st. Perhaps they
had a cunning scheme for these eventualities?
--
Roland Perry

John Williamson December 21st 11 01:39 PM

New boris bus breaks down
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:37:12 on
Wed, 21 Dec 2011, Basil Jet remarked:
Most of the big bus operators had similar systems. Bournemouth, for
instance, had a service lane in the garage into at least the '80s, and
the last digit of the fleet number matched the service rota day, so
every bus got a safety check every ten days,


... except in February.


And all those double checks on 31st's followed by a 1st. Perhaps they
had a cunning scheme for these eventualities?


The service rota was not synchronised to the calendar, it was a plain
ten day rotation.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Paul Cummins[_4_] December 21st 11 07:48 PM

New boris bus breaks down
 
We were about to embark at Dover, when d () came up
to me and whispered:

180hp is enough to power a double decker albeit slowly.


The original RT was 97bHp IIRC?

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[email protected] December 21st 11 10:27 PM

New boris bus breaks down
 
In article ,
lid (Paul Cummins) wrote:

We were about to embark at Dover, when
d () came up
to me and whispered:

180hp is enough to power a double decker albeit slowly.


The original RT was 97bHp IIRC?


No. They had 115BHP engines. You're remembering Flanders and Swann. IIRC
they were referring to something older, the LT I think.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Ross[_3_] December 22nd 11 12:21 AM

New boris bus breaks down
 
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:45:58 +0000 [UTC], Basil Jet wrote:

On 2011\12\20 23:06, Ross wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:02:04 +0000 [UTC], Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\12\20 18:02, John Williamson wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Which might mean that the (diesel) fuel gauge is also innacurate in
this early model.

Of course, if it's like the original Routemasters, the fuel gauge is a
piece of calibrated plywood which goes through the fuel filler.

Please explain.


I assume John is referring to a dipstick, which is also the way
Midland Red traditionally gauged fuel levels on its buses. There was
no fuel gauge dial/indicator in the cab itself.


stares at screen in shock


Not bus related, but you might be surprised to learn that on the UK
railways, diesel trains still don't have fuel gauges in the cab. They
are fitted - but on the fuel tanks, so you have to stop the train to
go and check them.

The theory is, of course, that trains won't run out of fuel in service
as the tanks hold more than enough fuel for a couple of days running.

In practice? You guess. ;)
--
Ross

Speaking for me, myself and I. Nobody else
- unless I make it clear that I am...


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