On 29/12/2011 17:39, Roland Perry wrote:

The ones who arrive by car at the wrong terminal need accommodating,
there's no denying that.

A few years ago I was driving to Heathrow to pick up my wife who was
arriving at T1 (I think) but heard on the traffic news that the whole of
the T123 area was grid-locked (which turned out to be true).
Fortunately I heard this just before entering the tunnel (which was also
jammed solid), so was just able divert via the perimeter road to T4. I
phoned my wife (who had by then landed) to tell her to take the Heathrow
Express to T4, as I knew that the HEX went there and was free, but the
tube might have been faster.

But a question: to get from T123 to T4 you have to change at Hatton
Cross don't you, as all trains go clockwise around the route. I presume
that's allowed free on the new Oyster-card arrangement?

--
Clive Page

In message , at 22:15:12 on Thu, 29 Dec
2011, Clive Page remarked:
But a question: to get from T123 to T4 you have to change at Hatton
Cross don't you, as all trains go clockwise around the route. I
presume that's allowed free on the new Oyster-card arrangement?

It says "journeys between", without ruling that out as a route, indeed
it's the only route.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message

In message , at 22:15:12 on Thu, 29
Dec 2011, Clive Page remarked:
But a question: to get from T123 to T4 you have to change at Hatton
Cross don't you, as all trains go clockwise around the route. I
presume that's allowed free on the new Oyster-card arrangement?

It says "journeys between", without ruling that out as a route, indeed
it's the only route.

And although indirect, it's an easy cross-platform interchange at Hatton
X.

How long as the Heathrow Free Travel Area existed for busses?

In message , at 13:04:13 on Sat,
31 Dec 2011, " remarked:
How long as the Heathrow Free Travel Area existed for busses?

The "Heathrow Freeflow" project started studying the idea in 1995, but
information is very thin on the ground about when the buses actually
began running.

This site has pictures of buses it says were acquired in 1995 for
Freeflow, but that may be a mistake based on the project start date,
given the lack of other material to confirm it:
http://www.countrybus.org/Dart/DEL.htm

Otherwise, the oldest references I can find anywhere (including news,
baa etc sites) is on usenet (uk.railway) in Sept 2004, and on a site
which says it was last updated in November 2003:

http://www.notrog.plus.com/busroutes...owfreezone.htm

and a reference elsewhere to hotel free shuttles being scrapped in ~2003
as a result of the Hotel Hoppa part of the Freeflow scheme.
--
Roland Perry

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:10:23 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
and a reference elsewhere to hotel free shuttles being scrapped in
~2003
as a result of the Hotel Hoppa part of the Freeflow scheme.

I thought that was longer ago - I have a distinct memory of going
outward on a trip on a free shuttle, and using the Hotel Hoppa on the
way back, and this was far earlier - 1996?

Neil

--
Neil Williams, Milton Keynes, UK

In message , at
16:22:48 on Sat, 31 Dec 2011, Neil Williams
remarked:
and a reference elsewhere to hotel free shuttles being scrapped in
~2003 as a result of the Hotel Hoppa part of the Freeflow scheme.

I thought that was longer ago - I have a distinct memory of going
outward on a trip on a free shuttle, and using the Hotel Hoppa on the
way back, and this was far earlier - 1996?

Maybe, but there's a dearth of evidence for this; if you can find any,
it would help.
--
Roland Perry