On Feb 7, 11:28*am, eastender wrote:

So I pay by card which takes probably 10 times longer and by the time I've
finished there are 2 people waiting behind - ie a queue.

You poor man. Life must be so hard for you.

I agree with him in this instance. If the automatic ticket machine is
out of order (which includes to me not giving change or not accepting
any usually-accepted mode fo payment), then either the ticket office
should handle any transaction that would have been possible at the
machine, or travel from that station should be free of charge.

Neil

"Neil Williams" wrote:

On Feb 7, 11:28 am, eastender wrote:

So I pay by card which takes probably 10 times longer and by the
time I've finished there are 2 people waiting behind - ie a queue.

You poor man. Life must be so hard for you.

I agree with him in this instance. If the automatic ticket machine is
out of order (which includes to me not giving change or not accepting
any usually-accepted mode fo payment), then either the ticket office
should handle any transaction that would have been possible at the
machine, or travel from that station should be free of charge.

Ditto (i.e. agree about the substantive point, rather than the
associated vitriol).

I've seen it suggested that the GBP5 minimum Oyster top-up rule wasn't
necessarily all that popular among some staff (seen as sidelining ticket
offices etc) - I think some at least initially ignored it - maybe overly
strict adherence to it is an alternative form of protest for a few?
Though I imagine that it must be a qualified rule, with exemptions for
situations such as when none of the ticket machines are accepting cash
(a situation that itself shouldn't be allowed to occur often).

Newsagents and other shops aka 'Oyster Ticket Stops' are of course happy
to take whatever assortment of coins off your hands in return for
topping up your Oyster card.

In article ,
"Mizter T" wrote:


I've seen it suggested that the GBP5 minimum Oyster top-up rule wasn't
necessarily all that popular among some staff (seen as sidelining ticket
offices etc) - I think some at least initially ignored it - maybe overly
strict adherence to it is an alternative form of protest for a few?
Though I imagine that it must be a qualified rule, with exemptions for
situations such as when none of the ticket machines are accepting cash
(a situation that itself shouldn't be allowed to occur often).

Indeed - the RMT were dead against it as they want more ticket windows
and they also said it discriminates against poor people. This may well
be the first recorded instance where Boltar and the RMT speak as one.

There are exemptions says TFL:

'The £5 limit will not apply to passengers clearing negative balances,
child Oyster photocards or cards with a valid discount entitlement.'

E.

On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:35:27 +0000
eastender wrote:
Indeed - the RMT were dead against it as they want more ticket windows
and they also said it discriminates against poor people. This may well
be the first recorded instance where Boltar and the RMT speak as one.

God help me. But then even a broken clock is correct twice a day. (The clock
being the RMT naturally, not yours truly - I am the atomic clock of precision
debate!)

B2003

In article ,
eastender wrote:
'The £5 limit will not apply to passengers clearing negative balances,
child Oyster photocards or cards with a valid discount entitlement.'

I wish it didn't apply when adding a travel voucher (e.g. compensation
from a delayed journey) to your oyster.

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Mike Bristow