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Mizter T wrote:

(Here comes Bruce's torrent of righteousness...)


Already delivered. ;-)

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In message , at 11:53:38 on Fri, 16 Mar
2012, Mizter T remarked:
You have seen those transport "heat maps" I presume?

Yes. That doesn't count as 'panic' to me, that counts as preparation.
The whole "Get Ahead Of The Games" information campaign (being led by
TfL), for instance, is about informing and preparing people, businesses
and organisations.
http://www.getaheadofthegames.com/

FWIW, Tessa Jowell, ex-Olympics minister, made the following comment in
response to concerns that London might 'grind to a halt' during the
Games:
"I’m prepared to bet my house that that will [prove to] be
apocalyptic nonsense."

It'll all depend what people mean by "grind to a halt", I suppose.
Waiting half an hour to get onto a train at a tube station isn't exactly
the *trains* grinding to a halt, but my progress as a pedestrian
certainly has.
--
Roland Perry

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Mizter T wrote:

I see increasing panic about the transport arrangements. For example the
wifi announcement today which was hilariously conflated with talk of
travel "hotspots" where they think there's going to be half-hour queues
to get on a train, even if they can get spectators to stagger their
journeys. (And make regular travellers stay at home, of course).

I think people who are wanting to see panic about it - e.g. yourself -
are seeing just that.

Maybe but I don't think it helps when the main source of information about
potential transport disruptions are media horror stories. I live not that
far from the Games and have not noticed a great deal of serious information
being circulated to encourage advance planning for the summer - there's been
nothing through my letter box for a start. Since nearly all my regular
journeys go through Stratford, which can be chaotic at the best of times,
it's understandable that people are starting to assume the worst.

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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

I see increasing panic about the transport arrangements. For example the
wifi announcement today which was hilariously conflated with talk of
travel "hotspots" where they think there's going to be half-hour queues
to get on a train, even if they can get spectators to stagger their
journeys. (And make regular travellers stay at home, of course).

I think people who are wanting to see panic about it - e.g. yourself -
are seeing just that.

Maybe but I don't think it helps when the main source of information about
potential transport disruptions are media horror stories. I live not that
far from the Games and have not noticed a great deal of serious information
being circulated to encourage advance planning for the summer - there's been
nothing through my letter box for a start. Since nearly all my regular
journeys go through Stratford, which can be chaotic at the best of times,
it's understandable that people are starting to assume the worst.


It's only for a fortnight, plus some reduced disruption in the
previous week.

I'm sure you'll cope. It's hardly the Blitz, is it.

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On 2012\03\16 19:01, Bruce wrote:
"Tim wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

I see increasing panic about the transport arrangements. For example the
wifi announcement today which was hilariously conflated with talk of
travel "hotspots" where they think there's going to be half-hour queues
to get on a train, even if they can get spectators to stagger their
journeys. (And make regular travellers stay at home, of course).

I think people who are wanting to see panic about it - e.g. yourself -
are seeing just that.

Maybe but I don't think it helps when the main source of information about
potential transport disruptions are media horror stories. I live not that
far from the Games and have not noticed a great deal of serious information
being circulated to encourage advance planning for the summer - there's been
nothing through my letter box for a start. Since nearly all my regular
journeys go through Stratford, which can be chaotic at the best of times,
it's understandable that people are starting to assume the worst.


It's only for a fortnight, plus some reduced disruption in the
previous week.

I'm sure you'll cope. It's hardly the Blitz, is it.

No, the bombs in the blitz didn't have plutonium in them.

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Basil Jet wrote:
On 2012\03\16 19:01, Bruce wrote:
"Tim wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

I see increasing panic about the transport arrangements. For example the
wifi announcement today which was hilariously conflated with talk of
travel "hotspots" where they think there's going to be half-hour queues
to get on a train, even if they can get spectators to stagger their
journeys. (And make regular travellers stay at home, of course).

I think people who are wanting to see panic about it - e.g. yourself -
are seeing just that.

Maybe but I don't think it helps when the main source of information about
potential transport disruptions are media horror stories. I live not that
far from the Games and have not noticed a great deal of serious information
being circulated to encourage advance planning for the summer - there's been
nothing through my letter box for a start. Since nearly all my regular
journeys go through Stratford, which can be chaotic at the best of times,
it's understandable that people are starting to assume the worst.


It's only for a fortnight, plus some reduced disruption in the
previous week.

I'm sure you'll cope. It's hardly the Blitz, is it.

No, the bombs in the blitz didn't have plutonium in them.


Paranoia Rules OK.

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In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2012\03\16 19:01, Bruce wrote:
"Tim wrote:
nothing through my letter box for a start. Since nearly all my regular
journeys go through Stratford, which can be chaotic at the best of times,
it's understandable that people are starting to assume the worst.

It's only for a fortnight, plus some reduced disruption in the
previous week.

I'm sure you'll cope. It's hardly the Blitz, is it.

No, the bombs in the blitz didn't have plutonium in them.

Bloody hell, putting the shot has changed a bit since my schooldays.

Nick
--
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:06:45 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 20:32:09 on
Wed, 14 Mar 2012, Richard remarked:

I have traveled on railway systems all across Europe using smart
cards and none compare to the sheer complexity and complication
to the Oyster card in London.

And none that I have used yet allow the flexibility of not buying your
ticket up-front. Some would, but have a flat fare on and across all
modes that we'll never have here.

Amsterdam has zones and a card very like Oyster.

Operationally I think that should read "had" zones. They're still
faintly there on maps but no longer used for ticketing. A "basis
tariff" plus per km set by each transport organisation. Same MIFARE
classic card as Oyster of course.

--
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So back to cmylod at bigfoot dot com

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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06:33AM +0000, Robin9 wrote:

[Olympics]
Obviously I hope that all goes well

Why?

For the amount of my money that's being spent on it, I expect to get a
little entertainment. Given that they're unlikely to do the hundred
metre dash in gigantic clown shoes, the only hope we have is that it's a
gigantic cluster****.

--
David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness

In this episode, R2 and Luke weld the doors shut on their X-Wing,
and Chewbacca discovers that his Ewok girlfriend is really just a
Womble with its nose chopped off.

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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:04:41AM +0000, Roland Perry wrote:

It depends how much use you get out of the legacy
infrastructure, for a start.

I somehow doubt we're going to get billions of pounds worth of use out
of a swimming pool, running track, and a handful of other things for
even less popular sports.

--
David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig

If I could read only one thing it would be the future, in the
entrails of the ******* denying me access to anything else.