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Basil Jet[_2_] May 3rd 12 08:32 AM

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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...s-7706930.html

tim.... May 3rd 12 08:54 AM

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"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...s-7706930.html


So, what is it then:

Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)

tim



Paul Scott[_3_] May 3rd 12 09:11 AM

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"tim...." wrote in message
...

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...s-7706930.html


So, what is it then:

Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not
the sponsor's intentions)


Testing starts on mayoral election day. Surely a complete coincidence?

Paul S


David Walters May 3rd 12 10:00 AM

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On Thu, 3 May 2012 10:11:34 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
"tim...." wrote in message
...

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...s-7706930.html


So, what is it then:

Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not
the sponsor's intentions)


Testing starts on mayoral election day. Surely a complete coincidence?


There have been gondolas on the cables since at least April 21st:
http://www.greenwich.co.uk/daily-pho...ve-the-thames/

It seems the only coincidence is The Standard reporting it.

77002 May 3rd 12 10:38 AM

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On May 3, 9:54*am, "tim...." wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message

...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...-dome-londons-...


So, what is it then:

Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! *(As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)

My thoughts exactly: The UK no longer makes goods that anyone wants
to buy. HMG missed the golden opportunity offered by docklands.

The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.

But, never mind, Carnival attractions (Ferris wheel, Cable car ride)
are sprouting around London.

Remember, in their time, Iraq, Iran, Greece, and Rome have all ruled
the world. The latter ended with cries for bread and circuses.

[email protected] May 3rd 12 11:44 AM

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On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)
77002 wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.


For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the financial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.

B2003



77002 May 3rd 12 12:02 PM

Cable car testing underway
 
On May 3, 12:44*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)

77002 wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.


For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the financial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.

No sympathy, but London is still the major financial transaction
center (New York is number 2, Chicago number 3). This is businesss
the UK can hardly afford to lose.

Bob May 3rd 12 12:48 PM

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On May 3, 12:38*pm, 77002 wrote:
On May 3, 9:54*am, "tim...." wrote: "Basil Jet" wrote in message

.. .


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...-dome-londons-....


So, what is it then:


Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! *(As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)


My thoughts exactly: *The UK no longer makes goods that anyone wants
to buy. *HMG missed the golden opportunity offered by docklands.


According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufac...United_Kingdom,
"In June 2010 British Manufacturing accounted for 8.2% of the
workforce and 12% of the national output."

Robin

[email protected] May 3rd 12 01:00 PM

Cable car testing underway
 
On Thu, 3 May 2012 05:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
77002 wrote:
On May 3, 12:44=A0pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)

77002 wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.


For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the finan=

cial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.

No sympathy, but London is still the major financial transaction
center (New York is number 2, Chicago number 3). This is businesss
the UK can hardly afford to lose.


If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A few
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.

B2003


Graeme Wall May 3rd 12 01:39 PM

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On 03/05/2012 13:48, bob wrote:
On May 3, 12:38 pm, wrote:
On May 3, 9:54 am, wrote: "Basil wrote in message

...


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...-dome-londons-...


So, what is it then:


Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)


My thoughts exactly: The UK no longer makes goods that anyone wants
to buy. HMG missed the golden opportunity offered by docklands.


According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufac...United_Kingdom,
"In June 2010 British Manufacturing accounted for 8.2% of the
workforce and 12% of the national output."


I'm intrigued to know what "golden" opportunity HMG missed in Docklands.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Basil Jet[_2_] May 3rd 12 02:10 PM

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On 2012\05\03 09:54, tim.... wrote:
"Basil wrote in message
...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...s-7706930.html


So, what is it then:

Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)


It's public transport, licensed by TfL. Addison Lee will order its
drivers to throw grapple hooks up to the cable, in order to create a
level playing field.

Roland Perry May 3rd 12 02:11 PM

Cable car testing underway
 
In message , at 14:39:37 on Thu, 3 May
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)

My thoughts exactly: The UK no longer makes goods that anyone wants
to buy. HMG missed the golden opportunity offered by docklands.


According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufac...United_Kingdom,
"In June 2010 British Manufacturing accounted for 8.2% of the
workforce and 12% of the national output."


I'm intrigued to know what "golden" opportunity HMG missed in
Docklands.


Disneyland Essex?
--
Roland Perry

Graeme Wall May 3rd 12 02:41 PM

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On 03/05/2012 15:11, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:39:37 on Thu, 3 May
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions,
not the
sponsor's intentions)

My thoughts exactly: The UK no longer makes goods that anyone wants
to buy. HMG missed the golden opportunity offered by docklands.

According to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufac...United_Kingdom,
"In June 2010 British Manufacturing accounted for 8.2% of the
workforce and 12% of the national output."


I'm intrigued to know what "golden" opportunity HMG missed in Docklands.


Disneyland Essex?


Isn't that just up the road in the Lea Valley?

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

e27002 May 3rd 12 03:57 PM

Cable car testing underway
 
On May 3, 2:00*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 05:02:57 -0700 (PDT)





77002 wrote:
On May 3, 12:44=A0pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)


77002 wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.


For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the finan=

cial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.


No sympathy, but London is still the major financial transaction
center (New York is number 2, Chicago number 3). *This is businesss
the UK can hardly afford to lose.


If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A few
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.


Sort of: to hell with the foreign currency reserves and balance of
payents benefit.

e27002 May 3rd 12 04:02 PM

Cable car testing underway
 
On May 3, 1:48*pm, bob wrote:
On May 3, 12:38*pm, 77002 wrote:

On May 3, 9:54*am, "tim...." wrote: "Basil Jet" wrote in message


.. .


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...-dome-londons-...


So, what is it then:


Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! *(As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)


My thoughts exactly: *The UK no longer makes goods that anyone wants
to buy. *HMG missed the golden opportunity offered by docklands.


According tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_in_the_United_Kingdom,
"In June 2010 British Manufacturing accounted for 8.2% of the
workforce and 12% of the national output."

So not down much compared with June 1910, :-)


tim.... May 3rd 12 06:38 PM

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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 3 May 2012 10:11:34 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"tim...." wrote in message
...

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...s-7706930.html

So, what is it then:

Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not
the sponsor's intentions)


Neither. You misspelt "monstrous waste of money".


That rather depends whether it turns a profit or not

(which itself depends upon what it is)

tim



Arthur Figgis May 3rd 12 11:12 PM

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On 03/05/2012 14:00, d wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 05:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
On May 3, 12:44=A0pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)

wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.

For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the finan=

cial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.

No sympathy, but London is still the major financial transaction
center (New York is number 2, Chicago number 3). This is businesss
the UK can hardly afford to lose.


If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A few
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.


In the bigger picture, every industry is chickenfeed. A billion Chinamen
might consider the entire UK population to be pretty negligible in the
grand scheme of things.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Arthur Figgis May 3rd 12 11:14 PM

Cable car testing underway
 
On 03/05/2012 11:38, 77002 wrote:
On May 3, 9:54 am, wrote:
"Basil wrote in message

...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...-dome-londons-...


So, what is it then:

Public transport, or a fair-ground ride! (As in people's opinions, not the
sponsor's intentions)

My thoughts exactly: The UK no longer makes goods that anyone wants
to buy.


Best tell that to companies like Rolls Royce (no, they don't make posh
cars).


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Nobody May 4th 12 12:19 AM

Cable car testing underway
 
On Fri, 04 May 2012 00:12:04 +0100, Arthur Figgis
wrote:

On 03/05/2012 14:00, d wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 05:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
On May 3, 12:44=A0pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)

wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.

For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the finan=
cial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.

No sympathy, but London is still the major financial transaction
center (New York is number 2, Chicago number 3). This is businesss
the UK can hardly afford to lose.


If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A few
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.


In the bigger picture, every industry is chickenfeed. A billion Chinamen
might consider the entire UK population to be pretty negligible in the
grand scheme of things.


gulp Chinamen?

Offramp May 4th 12 05:17 AM

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On Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:32:44 AM UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/l...s-7706930.html


I wouldn't want to test them. I have seen too many James Bond films.

e27002 May 4th 12 05:30 AM

Cable car testing underway
 
On May 4, 1:19*am, Nobody wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2012 00:12:04 +0100, Arthur Figgis





wrote:
On 03/05/2012 14:00, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 05:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
*wrote:
On May 3, 12:44=A0pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)


*wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.


For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the finan=
cial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.


No sympathy, but London is still the major financial transaction
center (New York is number 2, Chicago number 3). *This is businesss
the UK can hardly afford to lose.


If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A few
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.


In the bigger picture, every industry is chickenfeed. A billion Chinamen
might consider the entire UK population to be pretty negligible in the
grand scheme of things.


gulp Chinamen?


Even before "political correctness" that was low.

[email protected] May 4th 12 09:02 AM

Cable car testing underway
 
On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:57:14 -0700 (PDT)
e27002 wrote:
If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A fe=

w
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.


Sort of: to hell with the foreign currency reserves and balance of
payents benefit.


There are 3 ways a private company or corporation contributes to a state:

1) The goods and services it buys or sells.
2) The tax it pays
3) The jobs it creates

For investment banking 3 is negligable, 2 is probably a lot less than it could
be and 1 , while useful , is hardly the pivot on which the whole economy turns.
The usefulness of The City in this country is vastly overstated.

B2003


77002 May 4th 12 01:26 PM

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On May 4, 10:02*am, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:57:14 -0700 (PDT)

e27002 wrote:
If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A fe=

w
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.


Sort of: to hell with the foreign currency reserves and balance of
payents benefit.


There are 3 ways a private company or corporation contributes to a state:

1) The goods and services it buys or sells.
2) The tax it pays
3) The jobs it creates

For investment banking 3 is negligable, 2 is probably a lot less than it could
be and 1 , while useful , is hardly the pivot on which the whole economy turns.
The usefulness of The City in this country is vastly overstated.

So there is now a way to import oil purchased with pounds sterling?

[email protected] May 4th 12 02:17 PM

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On Fri, 4 May 2012 06:26:17 -0700 (PDT)
77002 wrote:
For investment banking 3 is negligable, 2 is probably a lot less than it =

could
be and 1 , while useful , is hardly the pivot on which the whole economy =

turns.
The usefulness of The City in this country is vastly overstated.

So there is now a way to import oil purchased with pounds sterling?


Wtf has that got to do with investment banking other than them buying oil
as a hedge? They don't control the currency markets, they play them.

Without a lot of those parasite speculators the price of oil could be
significantly lower. There has been many a time when literally tanker loads of
oil have been sitting off the coast waiting for the price to go up so it can
be sold at a large profit.

B2003


77002 May 4th 12 02:25 PM

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On May 4, 3:17*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2012 06:26:17 -0700 (PDT)

77002 wrote:
For investment banking 3 is negligable, 2 is probably a lot less than it =

could
be and 1 , while useful , is hardly the pivot on which the whole economy =

turns.
The usefulness of The City in this country is vastly overstated.


So there is now a way to import oil purchased with pounds sterling?


Wtf has that got to do with investment banking other than them buying oil
as a hedge? They don't control the currency markets, they play them.

Without a lot of those parasite speculators the price of oil could be
significantly lower. There has been many a time when literally tanker loads of
oil have been sitting off the coast waiting for the price to go up so it can
be sold at a large profit.


The point is that the UK needs foreign currency reserves. That means
exports. The UK's best performing exports are financial services.

Frankfort, Singapore, or Hong Kong would love to fill London's role,
and easily could.

Free Lunch May 4th 12 02:50 PM

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On Fri, 4 May 2012 07:25:43 -0700 (PDT), 77002 wrote
in misc.transport.urban-transit:

On May 4, 3:17*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2012 06:26:17 -0700 (PDT)

77002 wrote:
For investment banking 3 is negligable, 2 is probably a lot less than it =
could
be and 1 , while useful , is hardly the pivot on which the whole economy =
turns.
The usefulness of The City in this country is vastly overstated.


So there is now a way to import oil purchased with pounds sterling?


Wtf has that got to do with investment banking other than them buying oil
as a hedge? They don't control the currency markets, they play them.

Without a lot of those parasite speculators the price of oil could be
significantly lower. There has been many a time when literally tanker loads of
oil have been sitting off the coast waiting for the price to go up so it can
be sold at a large profit.


The point is that the UK needs foreign currency reserves. That means
exports. The UK's best performing exports are financial services.

Frankfort, Singapore, or Hong Kong would love to fill London's role,
and easily could.


London and New York seem to have the lock on it for the foreseeable
future.

Nobody May 5th 12 03:49 AM

Cable car testing underway
 
On Thu, 3 May 2012 22:30:11 -0700 (PDT), e27002
wrote:

On May 4, 1:19*am, Nobody wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2012 00:12:04 +0100, Arthur Figgis





wrote:
On 03/05/2012 14:00, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 05:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
*wrote:
On May 3, 12:44=A0pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 03:38:34 -0700 (PDT)


*wrote:
The financial services sector still brings in business, but HMG are
about to impose taxes on it.


For anyone with short memories - the investment banking part of the finan=
cial
services sector has cost this country billions in bail out money which we
still haven't recouped. Any sympathy for it is misplaced.


No sympathy, but London is still the major financial transaction
center (New York is number 2, Chicago number 3). *This is businesss
the UK can hardly afford to lose.


If we're not taxing it sufficiently then what benefit does it serve? A few
thousand jobs is chickenfeed in the scheme of things.


In the bigger picture, every industry is chickenfeed. A billion Chinamen
might consider the entire UK population to be pretty negligible in the
grand scheme of things.


gulp Chinamen?


Even before "political correctness" that was low.


Xie xie... I can safely go back to my chop suey and chow mein now. I
thought I wuz being overly sensitive.


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