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On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT
Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. B2003 |
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On May 24, 1:27*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. The example that springs to mind is that of a Brazillian electrician who dared to travel on a tube train. Robin |
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On May 24, 12:27*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. Now, now Boltar, don't be winding the liberals up. Never mind Justice for victims, we must shower pity on the crims. Riots? The police should protect property outside the riot zone. The army can take car of the scum. One verbal warning, one warning (blanks into the air) volley, then one real volley, end of riot, QED. |
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77002 wrote:
Riots? The police should protect property outside the riot zone. The army can take car of the scum. Adolf, should the army use hand grenades against them as well? |
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On May 24, 12:27*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. B2003 I take it you mean the Mark Duggan who was proved to be unarmed, and who was killed by a shot from police scum who then lied about the circumstances. They claimed that one of their men had been fired at by Mr Duggan, but a round found embedded in a police radio was proved to have been fired from a police weapon. I take it that you would have no objection to the police killing you and then lying about the circumstances if they choose to do so? They also lied about the Brazilian electrician, he did not vault over the ticket gates, and the last time I looked vaulting over ticket gates wasn't a capital offence in this country. They also lied about the man who died, though probably not as a direct result of, being pushed over by them during a demonstration in which he was not taking part in London. The British police are lying, cheating, dishonest, corrupt scum, and I wish people would open their eyes and see this for themselves. May I also point out the four who it was announced yesterday are accused of various wrongdoing. What bout the numerous reports of police wrongdoing almost weekly? Why do we almost never hear the outcome of these, one way or the other? If these reports are untrue then surely the subjects of them are entitled to have this fact made public. If the reports are true, of if the events are known to be true because we have personally experienced or witnessed them, then we are perfectly entitled to call them scum. |
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This is nothing new by the way. Take a look at what the Daily
Telegraph, hardly the most anti-establishment publication in this country, though I think one of our better newspapers, has had to say about our police in the past: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ime-fight.html The two links on the page to other articles do not work; they just go to today's page. The 'Third world' article doesn't show up if I search for it, though I have read it on the Daily Telegraph site in the past. Something called stopthedrugwar.org mention it he though this is not a source which I'd normally want to use. |
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 04:49:39 -0700 (PDT)
bob wrote: On May 24, 1:27=A0pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improv= e the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gun= ning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum i= n one go. The example that springs to mind is that of a Brazillian electrician who dared to travel on a tube train. Ah well, if he hadn't stayed working here illegally after his visa ran out he'd still be alive. However Duggan was known to the police who knew he carried so they had an excuse. B2003 |
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 13:28:48 +0100
"News" wrote: wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. Adolf, do you think pensioners should be machine gunned as well? Anyone remember seeing any pensioners rioting? Nope, neither do I. B2003 |
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 05:27:40 -0700 (PDT)
77002 wrote: Riots? The police should protect property outside the riot zone. The army can take car of the scum. One verbal warning, one warning (blanks into the air) volley, then one real volley, end of riot, QED. Yup. B2003 |
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On 24/05/2012 14:05, Stephen Furley wrote:
The British police are lying, cheating, dishonest, corrupt scum, and I wish people would open their eyes and see this for themselves. All right, you got a parking ticket in 1981, give it a rest. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail. Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail |
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On 2012\05\24 13:28, News wrote:
d wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. Adolf, do you think pensioners should be machine gunned as well? Congratulations, I didn't think losing an argument against Boltar was possible. |
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:05:47 -0700 (PDT)
Stephen Furley wrote: I take it you mean the Mark Duggan who was proved to be unarmed, and who was killed by a shot from police scum who then lied about the circumstances. They claimed that one of their men had been fired at Oh boo hoo. Shouw I send his family flowers in that case? Its probably more than any victims he would have used his gun on would have got. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan "Unnamed police sources claimed via The Telegraph that Duggan was a "well known gangster"[5] and a "major player and well known to the police in Tottenham".[41] Duggan was a nephew of deceased Manchester gangland boss Desmond Noonan" Yeah , a model citizen. by Mr Duggan, but a round found embedded in a police radio was proved to have been fired from a police weapon. I take it that you would have no objection to the police killing you and then lying about the circumstances if they choose to do so? If I was a known scum who had a habit of walking around with a loaded weapon then I don't think I could whinge if I got shot. They also lied about the man who died, though probably not as a direct result of, being pushed over by them during a demonstration in which he was not taking part in London. That was an accident because the drunken bum refused to move on. You don't expect someone to die from pushing them over. The British police are lying, cheating, dishonest, corrupt scum, and I wish people would open their eyes and see this for themselves. Compared to the low life that infests the estates they're angels. Who know doubt you think are poor misunderstood darlings who only need a hug and a cup of tea to turn them around. B2003 |
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On May 24, 3:45*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2012 04:49:39 -0700 (PDT) bob wrote: On May 24, 1:27=A0pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT Jethro_uk wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improv= e the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gun= ning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum i= n one go. The example that springs to mind is that of a Brazillian electrician who dared to travel on a tube train. Ah well, if he hadn't stayed working here illegally after his visa ran out he'd still be alive. Isn't that a bit like Frank Drebin, on being congratulated on his 50th drug dealer killed, saying, "actually I ran over the last two in my car, but I was lucky they turned out to be drug dealers." Robin |
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On May 24, 2:47*pm, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 24/05/2012 14:05, Stephen Furley wrote: The British police are lying, cheating, dishonest, corrupt scum, and I wish people would open their eyes and see this for themselves. All right, you got a parking ticket in 1981, give it a rest. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail. Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail No I didn't, that is a blatant lie. No, I will not give it a rest. Why do you feel that this sort of behaviour is acceptable by the police in this country? |
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On May 24, 2:53*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Stephen Furley wrote: I take it you mean the Mark Duggan who was proved to be unarmed, and who was killed by a shot from police scum who then lied about the circumstances. *They claimed that one of their men had been fired at Oh boo hoo. Shouw I send his family flowers in that case? Its probably more than any victims he would have used his gun on would have got. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan "Unnamed police sources claimed via The Telegraph that Duggan was a "well known gangster"[5] and a "major player and well known to the police in Tottenham".[41] I have no way of knowing whether this is true or not, but 'unnamed' police sources are not something I would ever believe without very good evidence to support them. The police constantly lie about just about everything. Is there any very good evidence to support them? Duggan was a nephew of deceased Manchester gangland boss Desmond Noonan" So what? I had a relative, I think he was a great uncle or something, who was a member of the British Union of Fascists and who had supported Hitler and believed that Britain should have joined with him against the Russians. Am I to be held accountable for his views? Yeah , a model citizen. If I was a known scum who had a habit of walking around with a loaded weapon then I don't think I could whinge if I got shot. But you have no objection to people doing this as long as they work for the police? They also lied about the man who died, though probably not as a direct result of, being pushed over by them during a demonstration in which he was not taking part in London. That was an accident because the drunken bum refused to move on. You don't expect someone to die from pushing them over. Ok, let's say that I go out into the street. I happen to see a police officer, and I push them to the ground. Do to unknown reasons, they die. I then lie about the circumstances. When it is shown that I have lied I then claim that it was an accident, and that I had pushed him because he (I'm not sure of the exact wording which was used, but it was something like) looked as if he was going to resist me. Under those circumstances would you have any objection to the way I had behaved, or would you feel that it was quite acceptable? |
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 07:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
Stephen Furley wrote: good evidence to support them. The police constantly lie about just about everything. Is there any very good evidence to support them? No, the just lie about everything in your paranoid anti establishment mind. supported Hitler and believed that Britain should have joined with him against the Russians. Am I to be held accountable for his views? If you walked around wearing an SS uniform then you'd certainly appear to share them. Duggan was known to carry a gun. But you have no objection to people doing this as long as they work for the police? If the police want to shoot armed criminals even if they're not commiting a crime thats fine by me. That was an accident because the drunken bum refused to move on. You don'= t expect someone to die from pushing them over. Ok, let's say that I go out into the street. I happen to see a police officer, and I push them to the ground. Do to unknown reasons, they You don't have the legal authority to move someone on. They do. it was something like) looked as if he was going to resist me. Under those circumstances would you have any objection to the way I had behaved, or would you feel that it was quite acceptable? The video shows it all. He was pushed. End of. The officer who did it might have been a bit of a muppet but I very much doubt he decided to kill someone that day. Scum beat up and knife people every day in london. Why don't you reserve you bile for them or do you see yourself in them? B2003 |
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 07:04:57 -0700 (PDT)
Stephen Furley wrote: On May 24, 2:47=A0pm, Graeme Wall wrote: On 24/05/2012 14:05, Stephen Furley wrote: The British police are lying, cheating, dishonest, corrupt scum, and I wish people would open their eyes and see this for themselves. All right, you got a parking ticket in 1981, give it a rest. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail. Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail No I didn't, that is a blatant lie. No, I will not give it a rest. Not good at spotting a **** take are you. Another thick witted humourless lefty. B2003 |
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On 24/05/2012 14:53, d wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan "Unnamed police sources claimed Where do such things come on the scale between "someone's written on the toilet wall", "the Daily Mail said", "a bloke in the pub once told my mate" and "a good service is operating on all lines"? -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 24/05/2012 13:27, 77002 wrote:
On May 24, 12:27 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. Now, now Boltar, don't be winding the liberals up. Never mind Justice for victims, we must shower pity on the crims. Riots? The police should protect property outside the riot zone. The army can take car of the scum. One verbal warning, one warning (blanks into the air) volley, then one real volley, end of riot, QED. Wind who up? Why don't both of you stick your heads down the nearest bog and pull the chain? -- Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman |
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On 24/05/2012 14:51, Graeme Wall wrote:
You've not seen when the Bingo chucks out on a Saturday night then? The former Essoldo in Gainsborough, you don't want to be there. -- Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman |
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On 24/05/2012 14:05, Stephen Furley wrote:
On May 24, 12:27 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:48 GMT wrote: involved - it rather gives the impression the police can kill with impunity. What , you mean "innocent" people such as that gun carrying ganster scum like Mark Duggan? If the police shot more people like him it might improve the lives of the law abiding living in places like Tottenham. Machine gunning any more rioters would help too as you could get rid of 90% of the scum in one go. B2003 I take it you mean the Mark Duggan who was proved to be unarmed, and who was killed by a shot from police scum who then lied about the circumstances. They claimed that one of their men had been fired at by Mr Duggan, but a round found embedded in a police radio was proved to have been fired from a police weapon. I take it that you would have no objection to the police killing you and then lying about the circumstances if they choose to do so? They also lied about the Brazilian electrician, he did not vault over the ticket gates, and the last time I looked vaulting over ticket gates wasn't a capital offence in this country. They also lied about the man who died, though probably not as a direct result of, being pushed over by them during a demonstration in which he was not taking part in London. The British police are lying, cheating, dishonest, corrupt scum, and I wish people would open their eyes and see this for themselves. I don't think this is true of the majority, but they won't turn the bad eggs in through misplaced loyalty and, in the present climate, concern for people's livelihoods. -- Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman |
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On 25/05/2012 07:51, Martin Edwards wrote:
On 24/05/2012 15:43, d wrote: Not good at spotting a **** take are you. Another thick witted humourless lefty. B2003 That's because it isn't a **** take. Err... actually it /was/ a **** take. -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail. Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail |
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 07:51:09 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote: On 24/05/2012 15:43, d wrote: Not good at spotting a **** take are you. Another thick witted humourless lefty. B2003 That's because it isn't a **** take. You are a fascist ****, and probably have the malfunction I have already adumbrated. Fascist? Right, because maxist revolutionaries never suggesting shooting crowds did they. (That was sarcasm by the way since you clearly don't pick up on it). Except that in their case it was usually innocent protestors, not violent rioters rioting for no other reason that to cause trouble. B2003 |
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On 25/05/2012 09:47, d wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 07:51:09 +0100 Martin wrote: On 24/05/2012 15:43, d wrote: Not good at spotting a **** take are you. Another thick witted humourless lefty. B2003 That's because it isn't a **** take. You are a fascist ****, and probably have the malfunction I have already adumbrated. Fascist? Right, because maxist revolutionaries never suggesting shooting crowds did they. (That was sarcasm by the way since you clearly don't pick up on it). Except that in their case it was usually innocent protestors, not violent rioters rioting for no other reason that to cause trouble. B2003 Was that Mad Maxist revolutionaries? -- Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman |
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