On Jul 18, 11:46*am, Recliner wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:56:08 -0700 (PDT), e27002





wrote:

IMHO, not a good program. *It was simplistic tothose with some
knowledge of the subject. * It was misleading to those without. *The
graphics were not bad.

What was misleading about it? Other than that it mentioned TfL and Crossrail
projects in the same breath rather than making it clear that Crossrail is
not part of TfL or "the London Underground system".

The City & South London was the first subway line? *Whatever happened
to the Met? *Apparently steam motive pwer was considered! *(On a tube
line). *Greathead was the first to tunnel with a shield! *What was
Marc Brunel utilizing (OK, not so refined, but still the same
principle).

The program was simplistic and lacked detail, even for "normals".

Yes, it was simplistic and lacked detail, being intended for the US
market, although it apparently still required a longer attention span
than you could muster. It made quite clear the difference between the
Met's cut and cover tunnels (complete with horse-drawn carriages
driving on the right) and the pioneering deep tube tunnels used by the
C&SLR. It separately explained that multiple-unit electric trains (as
pioneered in NYC) had better traction than steam loco-hauled trains,
though it didn't mention the intermediate option of electric locos, as
used initially by the C&SLR.

Apparently your attention span is not long enough to read what I
actually wrote. The presenter clearly stated that the C&SLRy was the
first Underground Line in London.

IMHO is sad when someone of moderate intelligence, like you, sees
nationalities in stereotypes. If you have a spouse, I hope she
encourages to go out and explore the wider world. You will find that
there is so much more out there.

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:49:09 +0100, Mortimer wrote:

What was misleading about it? Other than that it mentioned TfL and Crossrail
projects in the same breath rather than making it clear that Crossrail is
not part of TfL or "the London Underground system".

Will Crossrail be included on the Tube map?

--
jhk

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:49:09 +0100, Mortimer wrote:
What was misleading about it? Other than that it mentioned TfL and Crossrail
projects in the same breath rather than making it clear that Crossrail is
not part of TfL or "the London Underground system".

Will Crossrail be included on the Tube map?


Yes, in the same way that Thameslink is shown.

On 23/07/2012 19:08, Bruce wrote:

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
Will Crossrail be included on the Tube map?

Yes, in the same way that Thameslink is shown.

Thameslink isn't shown on current Tube maps:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.gif

It was in the past, but it hasn't featured for several years.

Mizter T wrote:


On 23/07/2012 19:08, Bruce wrote:

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
Will Crossrail be included on the Tube map?

Yes, in the same way that Thameslink is shown.

Thameslink isn't shown on current Tube maps:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.gif

It was in the past, but it hasn't featured for several years.


Thanks. Obviously it's time I got a new map. ;-)

"Paul Corfield" wrote

I would say "Yes" given that TfL have already published maps showing
the line in place.

see page 86 of this pdf.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...and-Budget.pdf

Doesn't look as though TfL are all that confident of the Croxley Link.

Peter

In article ,
(Peter Masson) wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote

I would say "Yes" given that TfL have already published maps showing
the line in place.

see page 86 of this pdf.


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...0-03-2011-Busi
ness-Plan-and-Budget.pdf

Doesn't look as though TfL are all that confident of the Croxley Link.

Or were over a year ago. Is that really the latest plan?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 2012\07\23 19:24, Bruce wrote:
Mizter T wrote:


On 23/07/2012 19:08, Bruce wrote:

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
Will Crossrail be included on the Tube map?

Yes, in the same way that Thameslink is shown.

Thameslink isn't shown on current Tube maps:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.gif

It was in the past, but it hasn't featured for several years.


Thanks. Obviously it's time I got a new map. ;-)

Yes, you'll be so much better off with one that doesn't show Thameslink.