Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On 05/09/2012 11:02, 77002 wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:07 am, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:36:20 +0100

"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
wrote:

Watford is not in Greater London and will only become so in the event of
future legislation?

You're missing the point. As a shorthand way of stating what is and isn't
in london I said any built up area within the M25. If some of those places
arn't technically within what is legally london who cares.

The people in those places for one. And the M25's route was not intended to

Right, because watford is the north london equivalent of Esher. Not.
I doubt the residents give a **** one way or the other.

be the definitive guide to what is and isn't London (some parts are outside

I never said it was, I just said it was a useful shorthand. Is it idiot week
on here or something? Do I need to write in single syllable words perhaps
in capitals so you muppets can understand my point?

B2003

Come on Boltar, you should know by now that "intelligent left winger"
is an oxy moron.

I am not an Oxhey Moron and resent the allegation.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On 05/09/2012 11:17, d wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 03:02:39 -0700 (PDT)
77002 wrote:
I never said it was, I just said it was a useful shorthand. Is it idiot w=
eek
on here or something? Do I need to write in single syllable words perhaps
in capitals so you muppets can understand my point?

B2003

Come on Boltar, you should know by now that "intelligent left winger"
is an oxy moron.

Well I wouldn't argue with that. But this has more to do with them just not
bloody well reading what I wrote. I never said the M25 was an official
designation of london, just a convenient one given that all of london is
inside it.

B2003

And places inside it are not in London.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On 05/09/2012 10:05, d wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:49:11 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
You're missing the point. As a shorthand way of stating what is and isn't
in london I said any built up area within the M25. If some of those places
arn't technically within what is legally london who cares. Croydon probably
isn't either but I don't think many would deny that these days its simply a
south london suburb rather than a seperate town , the same as Barnet.

B2003

Croydon and Barnet are London boroughs, Watford is not. No amount of
bellowing the same lie will make it so.

What lie? Both croydon and barnet used to be independent towns. Now they're
part of london. Watford is still officially an independent town but its
essentially part of london now.

B2003


I never took part of its essence even when I lived there, so I will have
to let that ride. It is either in London or it is not. It is not.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:38:29 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
Well I wouldn't argue with that. But this has more to do with them just not
bloody well reading what I wrote. I never said the M25 was an official
designation of london, just a convenient one given that all of london is
inside it.

B2003

And places inside it are not in London.

Which part of "convenient shorthand" are you having a problem with?

B2003

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On 06/09/2012 09:31, d wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:38:29 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
Well I wouldn't argue with that. But this has more to do with them just not
bloody well reading what I wrote. I never said the M25 was an official
designation of london, just a convenient one given that all of london is
inside it.

B2003

And places inside it are not in London.

Which part of "convenient shorthand" are you having a problem with?

B2003


"Convenient", no come to think of it "shorthand". No, wait, the drivel
you post.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:11:13 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 06/09/2012 09:31, d wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:38:29 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
Well I wouldn't argue with that. But this has more to do with them just not
bloody well reading what I wrote. I never said the M25 was an official
designation of london, just a convenient one given that all of london is
inside it.

B2003

And places inside it are not in London.

Which part of "convenient shorthand" are you having a problem with?

B2003


"Convenient", no come to think of it "shorthand". No, wait, the drivel
you post.

Is that mangled grammer supposed to be some sort of amateur Haiku?

B2003

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On 07/09/2012 09:46, d wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:11:13 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 06/09/2012 09:31, d wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:38:29 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
Well I wouldn't argue with that. But this has more to do with them just not
bloody well reading what I wrote. I never said the M25 was an official
designation of london, just a convenient one given that all of london is
inside it.

B2003

And places inside it are not in London.

Which part of "convenient shorthand" are you having a problem with?

B2003


"Convenient", no come to think of it "shorthand". No, wait, the drivel
you post.

Is that mangled grammer..................

Point made, I think.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:37:06 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 07/09/2012 09:46, d wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:11:13 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 06/09/2012 09:31, d wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:38:29 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
Well I wouldn't argue with that. But this has more to do with them just
not
bloody well reading what I wrote. I never said the M25 was an official
designation of london, just a convenient one given that all of london is
inside it.

B2003

And places inside it are not in London.

Which part of "convenient shorthand" are you having a problem with?

B2003


"Convenient", no come to think of it "shorthand". No, wait, the drivel
you post.

Is that mangled grammer..................

Point made, I think.

If the point you're trying to make is that you can't read or write intelligable
english then congrats, you've nailed it.

B2003

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On 10/09/2012 09:37, d wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:37:06 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 07/09/2012 09:46, d wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:11:13 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 06/09/2012 09:31, d wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:38:29 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
Well I wouldn't argue with that. But this has more to do with them just
not
bloody well reading what I wrote. I never said the M25 was an official
designation of london, just a convenient one given that all of london is
inside it.

B2003

And places inside it are not in London.

Which part of "convenient shorthand" are you having a problem with?

B2003


"Convenient", no come to think of it "shorthand". No, wait, the drivel
you post.

Is that mangled grammer..................

Point made, I think.

If the point you're trying to make is that you can't read or write intelligable
english then congrats, you've nailed it.

B2003


There, there.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

Martin Edwards wrote:
On 01/09/2012 10:41, News wrote:

"Martin Edwards" wrote in message
...
On 31/08/2012 22:05, News wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...

It's a lot easier to build on a green field site and usually
considerably cheaper. Add the lower construction costs to the
much lower cost of buying agricultural land on the outskirts of
towns and cities compared with land values in and near town
centres and there is a clear incentive to develop green field
sites which the housebuilders already own compared with brown
field sites which they don't. Experience shows that by far the best
way to facilitate
development of brown field sites is for the public sector to pay
for site clearance and remediation

The best way is to slap land valuation taxation on all land. The
landowners soon get it profitable. And no public expense to do so.

But will the tax on my garden be higher than my present council tax?

Land Valuation Taxation (LVT) is on the VALUE of the land, all the
land not just the garden. It does not tax the capital, the
building. In its purest form there will be no Income, Sales,
Inheritance tax or tax in interest. Calculations have been done that
show a man on £40K per ann as an owner/occupier will be approx, £6.5
to £7K per ann overall. As time goes on the revenue HMG needs will
be less as more enterprise is encouraged and economic parasites
eliminated. So, the £7K saved will increase. The Welfare state will
diminish as people gain control of their lives pushing HMG into the
background. Speculation on land is near eliminated - so no land
fueled boom and busts - as the 1929 & 2008 world-wide crashes were.

http://www.landvaluetax.org/what-is-lvt/

LVT

I live on a pension of about £10k. I am not complaining, but I would
like an answer to my question.

The tax, which is a misnomer as it is not a tax, is on "all" the land, even
the land under the house. It could be higher than council tax, but you do
not pay Income tax, VAT and other stealth taxes, so are you are better off.
Exemptions would apply in some cases. Or differed payment until sale of
house or death.

Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

Because it was there? :-)



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Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

In article ,
Roger Traviss wrote:
Because it was there? :-)

Because Verney Junction couldn't go to the Met :)

Nick
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Why did the Metropolitan Railway go to Verney Junction?
 

On 17/12/2012 02:27, News wrote:
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 01/09/2012 10:41, News wrote:

"Martin Edwards" wrote in message
...
On 31/08/2012 22:05, News wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...

It's a lot easier to build on a green field site and usually
considerably cheaper. Add the lower construction costs to the
much lower cost of buying agricultural land on the outskirts of
towns and cities compared with land values in and near town
centres and there is a clear incentive to develop green field
sites which the housebuilders already own compared with brown
field sites which they don't. Experience shows that by far the
best way to facilitate
development of brown field sites is for the public sector to pay
for site clearance and remediation

The best way is to slap land valuation taxation on all land. The
landowners soon get it profitable. And no public expense to do so.

But will the tax on my garden be higher than my present council tax?

Land Valuation Taxation (LVT) is on the VALUE of the land, all the
land not just the garden. It does not tax the capital, the
building. In its purest form there will be no Income, Sales,
Inheritance tax or tax in interest. Calculations have been done that
show a man on £40K per ann as an owner/occupier will be approx, £6.5
to £7K per ann overall. As time goes on the revenue HMG needs will
be less as more enterprise is encouraged and economic parasites
eliminated. So, the £7K saved will increase. The Welfare state will
diminish as people gain control of their lives pushing HMG into the
background. Speculation on land is near eliminated - so no land
fueled boom and busts - as the 1929 & 2008 world-wide crashes were.

http://www.landvaluetax.org/what-is-lvt/

LVT

I live on a pension of about £10k. I am not complaining, but I would
like an answer to my question.

The tax, which is a misnomer as it is not a tax, is on "all" the land,
even the land under the house. It could be higher than council tax, but
you do not pay Income tax, VAT and other stealth taxes, so are you are
better off. Exemptions would apply in some cases. Or differed payment
until sale of house or death.

In what way are income tax and VAT stealth taxes? As far as I know
everybody knows about them. Thanks for the answer, though. I think I
am better off with my nugatory income tax.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman