On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:10:26 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
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04:27:26 on Wed, 29 Aug 2012, 77002 remarked:
Unless the UK indulges in another round of building "new towns", the
national housing shortage is actually only solvable at the local
level. In other words build homes where the people and jobs are, or
move the people and jobs.

Unfortunately the policy for most of the country seems to be to build
new estates on largely brownfield and rural sites, in places where they
get the least objection. Correlating it with workplaces is the last
thing on the agenda.

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to mass
immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an extra 2 million
people. If there was any justice in the world Tony Blair would be forced to
rent out the rooms in his mansions.

B2003

d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher reinforced this
act. Why? To keep house price high to appeal to owner/occupiers to gain
votes, while the country as whole suffered. The state of the nation was
throw out of the window.

The knock-on was that debt after debt was poured into land which resulted in
the Credit Crunch - a collapse.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of the world
onto this island. And don't even bother pretending the majority are hard
working intellectuals keeping our economy afloat. Thats utter BS.

The knock-on was that debt after debt was poured into land which resulted in
the Credit Crunch - a collapse.

An interesting rewrite of recent economic history.

B2003

d wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher
reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of
the world onto this island.

What the f**k are you on about oh senile one? Duh!!!!!

The knock-on was that debt after debt was poured into land which
resulted in the Credit Crunch - a collapse.

An interesting rewrite of recent economic history.

The root of the recent bust was because of LAND SPECULATION. Debt after debt
was poured into tax free land. Your knowledge of economics is zero.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:33:00 +0100
"News" wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher
reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of
the world onto this island.

What the f**k are you on about oh senile one? Duh!!!!!

Are you 12 or something? You sound like a schoolchild.

The knock-on was that debt after debt was poured into land which
resulted in the Credit Crunch - a collapse.

An interesting rewrite of recent economic history.

The root of the recent bust was because of LAND SPECULATION. Debt after debt
was poured into tax free land. Your knowledge of economics is zero.

*sigh* Part of the problem was CDOs partially based on unsecured US mortgage
loans but thats not the same as land speculation and it wasn't the whole
story. I can't be arsed to argue this with a child, go read up on it.

B2003

d wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:33:00 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open
to mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with
housing an extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in
the world Tony Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his
mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher
reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of
the world onto this island.

What the f**k are you on about oh senile one? Duh!!!!!

Are you 12 or something? You sound like a schoolchild.

"Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher reinforced
this" Only 7.5% of the land is settled.

The knock-on was that debt after debt was poured into land which
resulted in the Credit Crunch - a collapse.

An interesting rewrite of recent economic history.

The root of the recent bust was because of LAND SPECULATION. Debt
after debt was poured into tax free land. Your knowledge of
economics is zero.

*sigh* Part of the problem was

Senile one, again ....
"The "root" of the recent bust was because of LAND SPECULATION. Debt after
debt was poured into tax free land. Your knowledge of economics is zero."

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:33:00 +0100, "News" wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher
reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of
the world onto this island.

What the f**k are you on about oh senile one? Duh!!!!!

The knock-on was that debt after debt was poured into land which
resulted in the Credit Crunch - a collapse.

An interesting rewrite of recent economic history.

The root of the recent bust was because of LAND SPECULATION. Debt after debt
was poured into tax free land. Your knowledge of economics is zero.

Why is why the old parties love it, they get so much of their funding from developers.

On 30/08/2012 11:41, d wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of the world
onto this island. And don't even bother pretending the majority are hard
working intellectuals keeping our economy afloat. Thats utter BS.


No, they are hard working East Europeans who are doing the jobs the
Anglo-Saxons and the descendants of earlier immigrants will no longer
do. Shame on you, sir.


--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:43:22 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 30/08/2012 11:41, d wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of the world
onto this island. And don't even bother pretending the majority are hard
working intellectuals keeping our economy afloat. Thats utter BS.


No, they are hard working East Europeans who are doing the jobs the
Anglo-Saxons and the descendants of earlier immigrants will no longer
do. Shame on you, sir.

Oh not this fatuous old argument again. There were plenty of british
workmen before the flood gates were opened but guess what - a lot of them
had families to pay for and didn't fancy living 6 to a flat. If you're some
20 something single male sharing rent with a lot of mates of course you
can undercut the indigenous competition.

B2003

On 31/08/2012 10:53, d wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:43:22 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 30/08/2012 11:41, d wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:40:46 +0100
"News" wrote:
d wrote:

If the previous government hadn't deliberaly flung the doors open to
mass immigration we wouldn't now be having to cope with housing an
extra 2 million people. If there was any justice in the world Tony
Blair would be forced to rent out the rooms in his mansions.

Or scrap the Stalinist Town & Country Planning act. Thatcher reinforced this

Thanks, but I'd prefer to settle for not welcoming all the scum of the world
onto this island. And don't even bother pretending the majority are hard
working intellectuals keeping our economy afloat. Thats utter BS.


No, they are hard working East Europeans who are doing the jobs the
Anglo-Saxons and the descendants of earlier immigrants will no longer
do. Shame on you, sir.

Oh not this fatuous old argument again. There were plenty of british
workmen before the flood gates were opened but guess what - a lot of them
had families to pay for and didn't fancy living 6 to a flat. If you're some
20 something single male sharing rent with a lot of mates of course you
can undercut the indigenous competition.

B2003

So the state can pay for their families. I would have thought that
someone of your political inclination would be against that. The three
Polish and one Russian family on my suburban street seem to be able to
live on the husbands' wages.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman