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Cross-platform interchanges
So, I was just wondering what other cross-platform interchanges there
are on the underground. I'm thinking of things like Victoria line and Northern line (Bank branch) at Euston, Victoria line and Bakerloo line at Oxford Circus, Victoria line and Northern City Line at Highbury & Islington. I'm curious as to what others there are? roy |
Cross-platform interchanges
"Roy Badami" wrote in message ... So, I was just wondering what other cross-platform interchanges there are on the underground. I'm thinking of things like Victoria line and Northern line (Bank branch) at Euston, Victoria line and Bakerloo line at Oxford Circus, Victoria line and Northern City Line at Highbury & Islington. I'm curious as to what others there are? roy Barons Court, Hammersmith, Turnham Green (at certain times) and Acton Town Piccadilly/District Mile End District/Central Stratford UK Rail/Central Finchley Rd and Wembley Park Metropolitan and Jubilee Baker St Jubilee/Bakerloo Edgware Rd Hammersmith and City/Circle if you're lucky |
Cross-platform interchanges
So, I was just wondering what other cross-platform interchanges there
are on the underground. I'm thinking of things like Victoria line and Northern line (Bank branch) at Euston, Victoria line and Bakerloo line at Oxford Circus, Victoria line and Northern City Line at Highbury & Islington. I'm curious as to what others there are? roy Barons Court, Hammersmith, Turnham Green (at certain times) and Acton Town Piccadilly/District Mile End District/Central Stratford UK Rail/Central Finchley Rd and Wembley Park Metropolitan and Jubilee Baker St Jubilee/Bakerloo Edgware Rd Hammersmith and City/Circle if you're lucky Highbury & Islington: Victoria - Northern City Line? -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
Cross-platform interchanges
"Robin" wrote in message ... So, I was just wondering what other cross-platform interchanges there are on the underground. I'm thinking of things like Victoria line and Northern line (Bank branch) at Euston, Victoria line and Bakerloo line at Oxford Circus, Victoria line and Northern City Line at Highbury & Islington. I'm curious as to what others there are? roy Barons Court, Hammersmith, Turnham Green (at certain times) and Acton Town Piccadilly/District Mile End District/Central Stratford UK Rail/Central Finchley Rd and Wembley Park Metropolitan and Jubilee Baker St Jubilee/Bakerloo Edgware Rd Hammersmith and City/Circle if you're lucky Highbury & Islington: Victoria - Northern City Line? -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid Oxford Circus Bakerloo and Victoria if memory serves. |
Cross-platform interchanges
So, I was just wondering what other cross-platform interchanges
there are on the underground. I'm thinking of things like Victoria line and Northern line (Bank branch) at Euston, Victoria line and Bakerloo line at Oxford Circus, Victoria line and Northern City Line at Highbury & Islington. I'm curious as to what others there are? roy Barons Court, Hammersmith, Turnham Green (at certain times) and Acton Town Piccadilly/District Mile End District/Central Stratford UK Rail/Central Finchley Rd and Wembley Park Metropolitan and Jubilee Baker St Jubilee/Bakerloo Edgware Rd Hammersmith and City/Circle if you're lucky Highbury & Islington: Victoria - Northern City Line? -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid Oxford Circus Bakerloo and Victoria if memory serves. I've just realised the OP mentioned the one at HHY one I offered (as well as the Oxford Circus one). I'm off to try to wash the egg off :( -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
Cross-platform interchanges
On 2012\10\17 20:30, Graham Harrison wrote:
"Roy Badami" wrote in message ... So, I was just wondering what other cross-platform interchanges there are on the underground. I'm thinking of things like Victoria line and Northern line (Bank branch) at Euston, Victoria line and Bakerloo line at Oxford Circus, Victoria line and Northern City Line at Highbury & Islington. I'm curious as to what others there are? roy Barons Court, Hammersmith, Turnham Green (at certain times) and Acton Town Piccadilly/District Mile End District/Central Stratford UK Rail/Central Finchley Rd and Wembley Park Metropolitan and Jubilee Baker St Jubilee/Bakerloo Edgware Rd Hammersmith and City/Circle if you're lucky Barking District / LTS. Finsbury Park Picc / Vic. Stockwell Northern / Vic Kennington Northern/Northern, and you could possibly put Camden Town in that category too. Harrow-On-The-Hill Met fast / Met slow. |
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On 2012\10\17 21:18, Basil Jet wrote:
Barking District / LTS. Actually I have a vague inkling this might only work in one direction or something, maybe someone else could elaborate. |
Cross-platform interchanges
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Cross-platform interchanges
On 17/10/2012 20:30, Graham Harrison wrote:
"Roy Badami" wrote in message ... So, I was just wondering what other cross-platform interchanges there are on the underground. I'm thinking of things like Victoria line and Northern line (Bank branch) at Euston, Victoria line and Bakerloo line at Oxford Circus, Victoria line and Northern City Line at Highbury & Islington. I'm curious as to what others there are? roy Barons Court, Hammersmith, Turnham Green (at certain times) and Acton Town Piccadilly/District Mile End District/Central Stratford UK Rail/Central Finchley Rd and Wembley Park Metropolitan and Jubilee Baker St Jubilee/Bakerloo Edgware Rd Hammersmith and City/Circle if you're lucky I notice that there are holding lights at only two locations, however: westbound Mile End for both the District and Central Lines, and the northbound Metropolitan track at Finchley Road. Do those holding lights require the berthed train to hold until the train on the opposite platform? The New York City Subway has holding lights at many cross-platform interchanges. They are three amber lights fitted on the ceiling about halfway along the platform's length, and the train must hold with the doors open when those lights are on. Only when the holding lights are no longer lit can a train close up and depart. Those holding lights are also used at terminals, I might add. |
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Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote on 18 October 2012 00:27:46 ...
In message , Richard J. writes The Paris Metro has holding lights (3 white lights in a triangle) on or near the headwall at many stations, used routinely to regulate the service. In my experience LU have never tried to impose punctuality controls in that way (except possibly on the ATO lines?). Oh they do! A red light until 30 secs before departure time seems to do the business. Yes, but isn't that just at termini and a few regulating points like Hyde Park Corner? That still leaves stretches of a dozen or more stations where no assistance is given to the drivers on accurate timekeeping. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:21:18 +0100
"Richard J." wrote: Yes, but isn't that just at termini and a few regulating points like Hyde Park Corner? That still leaves stretches of a dozen or more stations where no assistance is given to the drivers on accurate timekeeping. Whats the point of accurate timekeeping on a line with a train (in theory) every 5 mins or less? Its not like on the main line where if a train leaves early people might have to wait hours for the next one. B2003 |
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On 18/10/2012 00:27, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Richard J. writes The Paris Metro has holding lights (3 white lights in a triangle) on or near the headwall at many stations, used routinely to regulate the service. In my experience LU have never tried to impose punctuality controls in that way (except possibly on the ATO lines?). Oh they do! A red light until 30 secs before departure time seems to do the business. Where, exactly? |
Cross-platform interchanges
On 18/10/2012 17:00, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:21:18 +0100, "Richard J." wrote: Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote on 18 October 2012 00:27:46 ... In message , Richard J. writes The Paris Metro has holding lights (3 white lights in a triangle) on or near the headwall at many stations, used routinely to regulate the service. In my experience LU have never tried to impose punctuality controls in that way (except possibly on the ATO lines?). Oh they do! A red light until 30 secs before departure time seems to do the business. Yes, but isn't that just at termini and a few regulating points like Hyde Park Corner? That still leaves stretches of a dozen or more stations where no assistance is given to the drivers on accurate timekeeping. Aren't those just starters, then? |
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On 18/10/2012 17:00, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:21:18 +0100, "Richard J." wrote: Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote on 18 October 2012 00:27:46 ... In message , Richard J. writes The Paris Metro has holding lights (3 white lights in a triangle) on or near the headwall at many stations, used routinely to regulate the service. In my experience LU have never tried to impose punctuality controls in that way (except possibly on the ATO lines?). Oh they do! A red light until 30 secs before departure time seems to do the business. Yes, but isn't that just at termini and a few regulating points like Hyde Park Corner? That still leaves stretches of a dozen or more stations where no assistance is given to the drivers on accurate timekeeping. Surely all of the automated lines work to a precise timetable and timekeeping? The trains on the Vic Line have a facility to tell the driver exactly how many seconds there are before the train will depart and when to start the door close process. This is location and time specific given the link to the underlying timetable and dwell time assumptions built into it. I was told about this when I was lucky enough to have a control room visit and cab ride on the Vic Line before I left LU. Yes, I also saw that on the Victoria Line when I had a cab ride. I've also noticed on 92 stock that there is a red line on the driver's console, which looks like it is counting down. Is that time to departure or an indication of how far ahead the preceding train is? I also wonder why sometimes Central Line trains do not depart when the signal aspect is lunar white, indicating that trains on auto-pilot can proceed, but rather wait for the full green aspect that allows all trains to proceed. I would expect the Jubilee Line to have something similar. As ATC / ATO spreads to further lines then accurate timekeeping simply becomes the norm. Whether the concept of holding lights for cross platform interchange is programmed into the differing ATC / ATO systems I have no idea. BTW, where can I find information about the new signals on the Jubilee line, as well as the accompanying sign signals? |
Cross-platform interchanges
On 18/10/2012 00:27, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Richard J. writes The Paris Metro has holding lights (3 white lights in a triangle) on or near the headwall at many stations, used routinely to regulate the service. In my experience LU have never tried to impose punctuality controls in that way (except possibly on the ATO lines?). Oh they do! A red light until 30 secs before departure time seems to do the business. IIRC, there is a countdown clock at Paris Metro termini and a horn sounds when it is time to depart. A bell rings at termini on the New York City Subway. |
Cross-platform interchanges
A few more, getting more and more tenuous as we go down:
Ealing Broadway - FGW wb / central / district (sometimes) Limehouse - c2c wb / DLR eb Gunnesbury - district / overground Finchley Central - mill hill east shuttle / northern nb Aldgate - circle / met (depends) Wimbledon - thameslink to swt, also tram to platform 9? Grays - c2c wb to Stanford-le-Hope / terminators via Ockendon Elmers End - tram to hayes line nb Highbury & Islington - NLL wb / ELL from crystal palace(?) Battersea Park - inner london loop towards VIC / other sb from VIC Beckenham Jct, Crystal Palace, Grove Park, Watford Jct?? Euston - overground / other rail - and then most London terminals, if walking around the train counts Wembley Central in the future? |
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