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Basil Jet[_3_] November 5th 12 10:42 PM

Funny tram sign
 

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.3753...170.57,,3,0.13

The sign seems to be telling any tram coming down Canning Road that it
is allowed to turn left, but there have never been any tram tracks in
Canning Road. Is this just a mistake, or is there some legal reason for
that tram sign being there?

Here's another, so it's not a one-off.
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.3751.... 63,,0,-1.42


In this one,
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.3751...0.7 5,,2,0.55
I would have thought a "no entry" would suffice. Surely road signs as we
know them do not apply to trams using off-road tramways, so they could
go through a "No entry" with impunity.

Roland Perry November 6th 12 07:02 AM

Funny tram sign
 
In message , at 23:42:36 on
Mon, 5 Nov 2012, Basil Jet remarked:
In this one,
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.3751...157,0.01929&t=
m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.375054,-0.081108&panoid=Kdszo0K0rhNIchp7Q2HCRA&cb
p=12,90.75,,2,0.55 I would have thought a "no entry" would suffice.
Surely road signs as we know them do not apply to trams using off-road
tramways, so they could go through a "No entry" with impunity.


At a similar junction in Nottingham they have "No Entry - Except Trams"

http://goo.gl/maps/z6jOo

Plus an "Ahead only" for road vehicles on the traffic lights.

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Roland Perry

Paul Scott[_3_] November 6th 12 11:02 AM

Funny tram sign
 
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

The sign seems to be telling any tram coming down Canning Road that it is
allowed to turn left, but there have never been any tram tracks in Canning
Road. Is this just a mistake, or is there some legal reason for that tram
sign being there?


It isn't telling non-existing trams to turn left because it isn't a
'direction sign' for approaching vehicles. The white on blue colour code of
the sign tells you that it is an 'advance information sign' describing the
restrictions in the street beyond the junction. Think of it as information
'about trams' not 'for trams'.

It's basic highway code stuff this, it's the type of sign on page 7 he

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_070644.pdf

Your second example is similarly not giving direction information to trams,
it is advising all users of a timed restriction due to trams. I can't
really see an issue with it.

Your third example is probably just belt and braces - as IIRC in normal
circumstances emergency vehicles might often go through a no-entry sign to
overtake slow moving queues - perhaps not a good idea here...

Paul




Basil Jet[_3_] November 7th 12 02:46 AM

Funny tram sign
 
On 2012\11\06 12:02, Paul Scott wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

The sign seems to be telling any tram coming down Canning Road that it is
allowed to turn left, but there have never been any tram tracks in
Canning
Road. Is this just a mistake, or is there some legal reason for that tram
sign being there?


It isn't telling non-existing trams to turn left because it isn't a
'direction sign' for approaching vehicles. The white on blue colour
code of
the sign tells you that it is an 'advance information sign' describing the
restrictions in the street beyond the junction. Think of it as
information 'about trams' not 'for trams'.

It's basic highway code stuff this, it's the type of sign on page 7 he

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_070644.pdf


I notice signs for HOV lanes there... where do we have them in Britain?
It reminds me of one of my favourite Curb Your Enthusiasm scenes where
Larry is late for a sports match, so he pays a hooker to ride in his car
with him so he can use the HOV lane.

David Cantrell November 7th 12 12:13 PM

Funny tram sign
 
On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 03:46:21AM +0000, Basil Jet wrote:

I notice signs for HOV lanes there... where do we have them in Britain?
It reminds me of one of my favourite Curb Your Enthusiasm scenes where
Larry is late for a sports match, so he pays a hooker to ride in his car
with him so he can use the HOV lane.


Wasn't the M4 bus lane actually bus+taxi+HOV? And Wikipedia says that
there's one on the A647 in Leeds.

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Mizter T November 8th 12 09:40 PM

Funny tram sign
 

On 07/11/2012 13:13, David Cantrell wrote:

On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 03:46:21AM +0000, Basil Jet wrote:

I notice signs for HOV lanes there... where do we have them in Britain?
It reminds me of one of my favourite Curb Your Enthusiasm scenes where
Larry is late for a sports match, so he pays a hooker to ride in his car
with him so he can use the HOV lane.


Wasn't the M4 bus lane actually bus+taxi+HOV?


No, though motorbikes were allowed to use it. And because it wasn't
enforced, Addison Lee told their drivers to use it.


And Wikipedia says that there's one on the A647 in Leeds.


That's the one I've come across before.


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