From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20234125

Quote:

Fares across London's transport network will go up by 4.2% from
January, mayor Boris Johnson has announced.

The rise means a single bus fare on Oyster pay-as-you-go will be
£1.40, up by 5p, while a zone 1 Tube journey will cost £2.10, an
increase of 10p.

The increase, described by the mayor as "balanced", is 1% above the
Retail Prices Index (RPI) inflation, similar to the increase seen in
train fares.

Cycle hire cost also doubled with an annual membership rising to £90.

In October, the government announced that from January the average
fares on mainline trains will rise by 4.2% rather than 6.2%.

The RPI plus 1% formula used for mainline trains is also expected to
apply for London's transport network for the next two years.

-- End quote

So Boris Bike users see a much larger increase than LU and bus users
-- is the Barclays sponsorship being cut?

Call me a cynic, but why am I not surprised that this announcement was
made the day the news was (predictably) full of the US election
results?

Peter

On 08/11/2012 08:46, peter wrote:
Call me a cynic, but why am I not surprised that this announcement was
made the day the news was (predictably) full of the US election
results?

The fares increase was the top story on news bulletins on both BBC
London and LBC local radio yesterday evening (replete with spectacularly
predictable vox-pops of course). Didn't watch the local tv news
programmes but I'd imagine it got top billing yesterday.

But yes, I can well imagine the timing of the announcement was a bit of
news management. C'est la vie.

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:01:32 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
But yes, I can well imagine the timing of the announcement was a bit of
news management. C'est la vie.

Poor old Boris, the media didn't ignore it as he'd hoped. Steven Hendy was
dragged onto LBC yesterday to justify it but he ended up just getting tied in
knots by Nick Ferrari. If he hadn't been such an obvious lacky I might have
felt sorry for him.

B2003

I wish I had heard that.

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:51:36 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
Poor old Boris, the media didn't ignore it as he'd hoped. Steven Hendy was
dragged onto LBC yesterday to justify it but he ended up just getting tied in
knots by Nick Ferrari. If he hadn't been such an obvious lacky I might have
felt sorry for him.

Do you mean Peter Hendy or someone else? I would be surprised if

Yes, peter hendy.

Peter Hendy got tied up in knots by Nick Ferrari. Mr F is hardly the
most troublesome or assertive of broadcasters in my limited

I guess you don't listen to him much. Sometimes he can be a right sod. Depends
what mood he's in.

experience. It's why he is Boris's preferred broadcaster alongside
Vanessa Feltz who both stroke his ego rather than challenge him on his
record.

Well they are both on london stations and boris is allegedly mayor of london
though sometimes you have to wonder.

B2003

On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:17:55 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
Well yes but Boris refuses to be interviewed by the likes of Tim
Donovan of the BBC as he knows where the skeletons are hidden in
Boris's cupboard. For all the interesting statements about scrutiny,
openness and transparency you only have to see BJ's performance at
Mayor's Questions to start having doubts. The last couple of MQTs
were woeful and as for the new Policing arrangements well they are
beyond a joke even allowing for some inexperience on that part of the
Deputy Mayor for Policing, Mr Greenhalgh.

Can't say I'm surprised. Boris being major is all about Boris, not london
and behind all that what-ho jolly japes bluster is a calculating but lazy
politician with a rather thin skin. I suppose we have to be thankful that
the position of major hasn't given him or livingston enough power to do any
serious damage.

B2003

On 08/11/2012 11:55, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:01:32 +0000, Mizter T
wrote:

But yes, I can well imagine the timing of the announcement was a bit of
news management. C'est la vie.

Err TfL said the date of the Board meeting where the increases was
discussed had been in the diary for months. If you look back at
previous years the pattern of TfL Board meetings is pretty stable.
Obviously the date of the US election was known 4 years ago but I
can't see that the Mayor / TfL would go to these lengths.

Maybe Boris sent a hitman to assassinate Clive Dunn, and leaked news of
the archbishop?

There was a
delay given the Govt policy change on the scale of RPI increases - I
doubt that was predicted many months back when the Board meeting was
diarised.

Tom Edwards of the BBC did tweet yesterday to say it was a pretty poor
attempt to "bury bad news" if you invite all the relevant members of
the press to the Board meeting where you discuss the fares rise.

I bet the _real_ bad news was buried by the fare rises.


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On 07/11/2012 11:40, Recliner wrote:
From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20234125


In the past couple of years, at the end of the year TfL have displayed
both the outgoing and incoming fares on their website, along with a
label type icon that denotes which year a particular webpage of fare
tables refers to.

I presume they're going to do the same this year, except rather
unhelpfully and potentially confusingly the TfL web bods have managed to
add the "2011" icon to the current (2012) fares pages (the new 2013
fares have not yet appeared).

Examples...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14416.aspx
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14414.aspx
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14415.aspx

It's rather sloppy, considering this is pretty basic stuff (i.e. check
the result of your changes).

On Nov 27, 8:13*am, Mizter T wrote:
On 07/11/2012 11:40, Recliner wrote:

*Fromhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20234125

In the past couple of years, at the end of the year TfL have displayed
both the outgoing and incoming fares on their website, along with a
label type icon that denotes which year a particular webpage of fare
tables refers to.

I presume they're going to do the same this year, except rather
unhelpfully and potentially confusingly the TfL web bods have managed to
add the "2011" icon to the current (2012) fares pages (the new 2013
fares have not yet appeared).

Examples...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14416.aspx
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14414.aspx
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14415.aspx

It's rather sloppy, considering this is pretty basic stuff (i.e. check
the result of your changes).

Yes - very sloppy - but the website is probably contacted out to a
company of script kiddies who know it all but actually know nothing.

The BIG scandal of these ticket price rises is that TfL will net an
increased considerable profit from:

1/ faults in the Oyster card system:

- confused tourists not touching in AND out - maybe the gates are left
open due to lack of staff

- double charging such as when going from say the Bakerloo Line to
Circle/Hammersmith & City Line at Paddington via platform 12.

- touching in then immediately touching out when there is a disruption
in the services

OR

2/ the scam on the buses that has been operated for years:

- bus is suddenly terminated mid-route, pax are requested to get off
and catch the next bus - thereby incurring a double Oyster card
payment for a single journey

CJB.