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End of the South London Line
I and some colleagues had a last ride on the South London Line this
afternoon, from Victoria to London Bridge. One question arising is which bits of line will cease to have services from 9th December. It seems to me that only the South London Line from the junction just North of Battersea Park to just short of Wandsworth Road, including the South London platforms at Battersea Park, will lose all services and, though there will cease to be direct services between Denmark Hill and London Bridge, the journey will still be possible by changing at Peckham Rye or Queen's Road, Peckham, the latter on the same platform. Am I correct? -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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... It seems to me that only the South London Line from the junction just North of Battersea Park to just short of Wandsworth Road, including the South London platforms at Battersea Park, will lose all services and, though there will cease to be direct services between Denmark Hill and London Bridge, the journey will still be possible by changing at Peckham Rye or Queen's Road, Peckham, the latter on the same platform. Am I correct? Not fully, because LO are running a token service to/from Battersea Park to keep the line open and avoid closure procedures. Paul S |
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... Just Battersea Park or Victoria to Wandsworth Road? If only Battersea Park to Wandsworth Road that will mean no service over the junction between the Battersea Park South London Line platforms and Victoria and if only Victoria to Battersea Park it will mean no service between there and the junction near Wandsworth Road. I don't think they actually need to run over the physical junction for the purposes of keeping the route open to passengers. The requirement is only for a passenger to be able to get between the stations in question - IIRC this point came up in a previous discussion about the subtle difference between a 'line closure' and 'withdrawal of railway passenger services' under the 2005 Act. This token service is to overcome the latter, because the line itself is not closing and the physical route will remain available - even if only ever used by ECS or diversions. Paul S |
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wrote: In article , () wrote: Just Battersea Park or Victoria to Wandsworth Road? If only Battersea Park to Wandsworth Road that will mean no service over the junction between the Battersea Park South London Line platforms and Victoria and if only Victoria to Battersea Park it will mean no service between there and the junction near Wandsworth Road. Aha! Looking at the new timetable, I see SE's 18:59 M-F from Denmark Hill, calling at Clapham High Street and Wandsworth Road at 19:04 and 19:05, arriving Victoria at 19:14. It doesn't stop at Battersea Park though. Odd. Presumably it must go via the Stuarts Lane low level line - I think the SLL lines have access to that route these days. And there is LO's 22:17 M-F from Highbury & Islington calling at all stations to Wandsworth Road (22:57) and terminating at Battersea Park at 22:59. There's an 06:18 from Battersea Park to Highbury & Islington running in a normal South london path. I can't find any SE working in that direction. Their one service does cover the length of track between Battersea Park South London platforms and Victoria, which LO don't. That seems odd to me, as I thought one reason for this truncation of services was to allow the SLL junction at Battersea Park to be abolished so that the Brighton line platforms could be extended ? Nick -- "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:52:17 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:
I don't think they actually need to run over the physical junction for the purposes of keeping the route open to passengers. The requirement is only for a passenger to be able to get between the stations in question - IIRC this point came up in a previous discussion about the subtle difference between a 'line closure' and 'withdrawal of railway passenger services' under the 2005 Act. Is the act online? -- jhk |
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"Jarle H Knudsen" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:52:17 -0000, Paul Scott wrote: I don't think they actually need to run over the physical junction for the purposes of keeping the route open to passengers. The requirement is only for a passenger to be able to get between the stations in question - IIRC this point came up in a previous discussion about the subtle difference between a 'line closure' and 'withdrawal of railway passenger services' under the 2005 Act. Is the act online? all acts from about 2000 are. but you have to know its correct name :-( tim |
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Is the act online?
all acts from about 2000 are. but you have to know its correct name :-( I'm all for doing all I can to encourage visitors to the UK: we need all the inward investment we can get (and so far as I know our beer supplies are reasonably secure and can stand Jarle's visits!) Most UK statutes can now be found at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/. - and not just those since 2000. They have Acts back to 1267. I think the 2005 Act in question is the Railways Act 2005 - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/14/contents -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
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