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CJB December 21st 12 09:44 AM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 
Does anyone know why ALL trains to / from Heathrow have been cancelled
without notice for TWO days?

Some reports say signal failure, others say cable theft, others say
points failure at Airport Junction, others say was a fire at
Paddington.

What IS certain is that the severe disruption into / out of Paddington
has been going on since 11.00 Thursday morning, and are likely to
persist until 15.00 Friday afternoon.

As is typical for FGW / Heathrow NO MANAGEMENT WERE IN SIGHT on the
concourse at Paddington during the day nor during the evening rush-
hour on Thursday.

NO CONTINGENCY PLANS WERE IN PLACE to get airline pax to Heathrow to
make their flights. HEX staff at Paddington were telling pax to get
the Piccadilly Line to Heathrow - actually not that easy to do esp.
with luggage. And T4L were not accepting HEX or HConn tickets.

And the thousands who missed their flights from Heathrow likely also
found that they missed their onward flight connections, missed meeting
accommodation bookings, and are likely to miss spending Christmas with
their relatives / friends. And with the Christmas getaway now in full
swing thousands will find that rebooking flights is not an option
before the New Year.

Also most (all?) Intercity trains from Paddington to the West were
cancelled. Again rebooking is likely to be an issue since all
subsequent trains are likely to be fully booked. And trains are not
likely to be running again until later Friday afternoon.

What few trains that were running - mainly Intercitys - were not
stopping at local stations due to over-crowding or more likely not
having stop orders issued. So pax at local stations had to wait and
wait and wait until a train condescended to stop for them.

Wonderful chaos as usual. And FGW / Heathriw / NetworkRail management
doesn't give a damn.

Roland Perry December 21st 12 10:23 AM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 
In message
, at
02:44:22 on Fri, 21 Dec 2012, CJB remarked:
Does anyone know why ALL trains to / from Heathrow have been cancelled
without notice for TWO days?

Some reports say signal failure, others say cable theft, others say
points failure at Airport Junction, others say was a fire at
Paddington.


BBC news this morning said it was a fire in lineside signalling
equipment. So at least three out of your four (or a full house if the
stolen cable provided power and the result of that was an overload in
the next nearest supply cabinet).

Also most (all?) Intercity trains from Paddington to the West were
cancelled. Again rebooking is likely to be an issue since all
subsequent trains are likely to be fully booked.


Are they running reservation-only services?

--
Roland Perry

ian batten December 21st 12 10:28 AM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 
On Dec 21, 10:44*am, CJB wrote:

And the thousands who missed their flights from Heathrow likely also
found that they missed their onward flight connections,


And if they hadn't bought their HEx ticket in advance, as opposed to
paying cash on the day, they'll have the devil's own job with their
travel insurer, too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20808182 claims it's a
fire in an equipment room.

ian

[email protected] December 21st 12 10:51 AM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:23:55 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
02:44:22 on Fri, 21 Dec 2012, CJB remarked:
Does anyone know why ALL trains to / from Heathrow have been cancelled
without notice for TWO days?

Some reports say signal failure, others say cable theft, others say
points failure at Airport Junction, others say was a fire at
Paddington.


BBC news this morning said it was a fire in lineside signalling
equipment. So at least three out of your four (or a full house if the


I'll bet some sort of theft or vandalism caused the fire. I can't see it
happening on its own unless there was some seriously botched repair job
previously.

B2003



Patrick O'Neill December 21st 12 11:03 AM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 

"CJB" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know why ALL trains to / from Heathrow have been cancelled
without notice for TWO days?

Some reports say signal failure, others say cable theft, others say
points failure at Airport Junction, others say was a fire at
Paddington.

What IS certain is that the severe disruption into / out of Paddington
has been going on since 11.00 Thursday morning, and are likely to
persist until 15.00 Friday afternoon.

As is typical for FGW / Heathrow NO MANAGEMENT WERE IN SIGHT on the
concourse at Paddington during the day nor during the evening rush-
hour on Thursday.

NO CONTINGENCY PLANS WERE IN PLACE to get airline pax to Heathrow to
make their flights. HEX staff at Paddington were telling pax to get
the Piccadilly Line to Heathrow - actually not that easy to do esp.
with luggage. And T4L were not accepting HEX or HConn tickets.

And the thousands who missed their flights from Heathrow likely also
found that they missed their onward flight connections, missed meeting
accommodation bookings, and are likely to miss spending Christmas with
their relatives / friends. And with the Christmas getaway now in full
swing thousands will find that rebooking flights is not an option
before the New Year.

Also most (all?) Intercity trains from Paddington to the West were
cancelled. Again rebooking is likely to be an issue since all
subsequent trains are likely to be fully booked. And trains are not
likely to be running again until later Friday afternoon.

What few trains that were running - mainly Intercitys - were not
stopping at local stations due to over-crowding or more likely not
having stop orders issued. So pax at local stations had to wait and
wait and wait until a train condescended to stop for them.

Wonderful chaos as usual. And FGW / Heathriw / NetworkRail management
doesn't give a damn.

The Acton Relay room has gone pop together with serious damage to lineside
cabinets.


Neil Williams December 21st 12 11:40 AM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 
CJB wrote:

Also most (all?) Intercity trains from Paddington to the West were
cancelled. Again rebooking is likely to be an issue since all
subsequent trains are likely to be fully booked.


When was the last time you travelled by IC train in the UK?

Clue: the UK does not operate compulsory reservations.

Neil

--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply.

D7666 December 21st 12 12:28 PM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 

The Acton Relay room has gone pop together with serious damage to lineside
cabinets.- Hide quoted text -


Ditto AIUI at Preston Park, fire damaged signmals cabinet and traction
eqpt.

--
Nick


Patrick O'Neill December 21st 12 12:41 PM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 

"D7666" wrote in message
...

The Acton Relay room has gone pop together with serious damage to
lineside
cabinets.- Hide quoted text -


Ditto AIUI at Preston Park, fire damaged signmals cabinet and traction
eqpt.

--
Nick

Yes looks worse down there.


[email protected] December 21st 12 12:43 PM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:41:05 -0000
"Patrick O'Neill" wrote:
"D7666" wrote in message
...

The Acton Relay room has gone pop together with serious damage to
lineside
cabinets.- Hide quoted text -


Ditto AIUI at Preston Park, fire damaged signmals cabinet and traction
eqpt.

--
Nick

Yes looks worse down there.


What the hell happened? A power surge or sabotage?

B2003


Graham Harrison[_2_] December 21st 12 01:05 PM

Massive Disruption at Paddington - ALL day Thurs / Fri
 

"CJB" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know why ALL trains to / from Heathrow have been cancelled
without notice for TWO days?

Some reports say signal failure, others say cable theft, others say
points failure at Airport Junction, others say was a fire at
Paddington.

What IS certain is that the severe disruption into / out of Paddington
has been going on since 11.00 Thursday morning, and are likely to
persist until 15.00 Friday afternoon.

As is typical for FGW / Heathrow NO MANAGEMENT WERE IN SIGHT on the
concourse at Paddington during the day nor during the evening rush-
hour on Thursday.

NO CONTINGENCY PLANS WERE IN PLACE to get airline pax to Heathrow to
make their flights. HEX staff at Paddington were telling pax to get
the Piccadilly Line to Heathrow - actually not that easy to do esp.
with luggage. And T4L were not accepting HEX or HConn tickets.

And the thousands who missed their flights from Heathrow likely also
found that they missed their onward flight connections, missed meeting
accommodation bookings, and are likely to miss spending Christmas with
their relatives / friends. And with the Christmas getaway now in full
swing thousands will find that rebooking flights is not an option
before the New Year.

Also most (all?) Intercity trains from Paddington to the West were
cancelled. Again rebooking is likely to be an issue since all
subsequent trains are likely to be fully booked. And trains are not
likely to be running again until later Friday afternoon.

What few trains that were running - mainly Intercitys - were not
stopping at local stations due to over-crowding or more likely not
having stop orders issued. So pax at local stations had to wait and
wait and wait until a train condescended to stop for them.

Wonderful chaos as usual. And FGW / Heathriw / NetworkRail management
doesn't give a damn.


I think (but can't be absolutely sure) that yesterday (Thursday 20th) there
was a "signal failure" in the Slough/Southall area. This was followed by a
further failure on the Heathrow branch. Today (Friday 21st) there has been
a fire somewhere around Westbourne Park.

What I'm less clear about is what effect each one has had. I assume the
suspension of HeX and HC is due to the problems on the branch but I can't
help feeling that the removal of those trains has been a benefit to the rest
of the operation because, however many trains may be suffering at least
those 6 each way every hour are out of the way. The original signal
failure seems to have left only 2 lines operational.

The BBC seems to be trying to blame the fire at Westbourne Park (and I'm
beginning to wonder if that is actually where the fire is/was) for all the
chaos but I find that very difficult to believe.



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