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[email protected] June 14th 13 10:35 PM

Pelican Crossings
 
Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian crossing
signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that because of
the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb filaments, thus
meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the labour involved in
changing them?

[email protected] June 15th 13 12:35 AM

Pelican Crossings
 
In article , () wrote:

Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing
signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian
crossing signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that
because of the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb
filaments, thus meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the
labour involved in changing them?


All new installations use LEDs so that is a diminishing problem if it exists
at all.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] June 15th 13 01:33 AM

Pelican Crossings
 
On 14/06/2013 23:35, wrote:
Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian crossing
signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that because of
the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb filaments, thus
meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the labour involved in
changing them?


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/on-this-day...l?vp=1#POPvhNr

[email protected] June 15th 13 01:34 AM

Pelican Crossings
 
On 15/06/2013 01:35, wrote:
In article ,
() wrote:

Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing
signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian
crossing signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that
because of the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb
filaments, thus meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the
labour involved in changing them?


All new installations use LEDs so that is a diminishing problem if it exists
at all.


And the old ones? Because here in London the green pedestrian crossing
phases turn off, rather than flash.

JNugent[_5_] June 15th 13 10:32 AM

Pelican Crossings
 
On 15/06/2013 02:34, wrote:
On 15/06/2013 01:35,
wrote:
In article ,
() wrote:

Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing
signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian
crossing signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that
because of the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb
filaments, thus meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the
labour involved in changing them?


All new installations use LEDs so that is a diminishing problem if it
exists
at all.


And the old ones? Because here in London the green pedestrian crossing
phases turn off, rather than flash.


Could this be due to the differences between proper Real Lamps
(incandescent ones) and the newer Pretend Lamps which have very poor
performance just when turned on or off and are of limited value for
signalling purposes for that reason?

[email protected] June 15th 13 11:07 AM

Pelican Crossings
 
On 15/06/2013 11:32, JNugent wrote:
On 15/06/2013 02:34, wrote:
On 15/06/2013 01:35,
wrote:
In article ,
() wrote:

Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing
signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian
crossing signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that
because of the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb
filaments, thus meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the
labour involved in changing them?

All new installations use LEDs so that is a diminishing problem if it
exists
at all.


And the old ones? Because here in London the green pedestrian crossing
phases turn off, rather than flash.


Could this be due to the differences between proper Real Lamps
(incandescent ones) and the newer Pretend Lamps which have very poor
performance just when turned on or off and are of limited value for
signalling purposes for that reason?



Don't know.

Basil Jet[_3_] June 15th 13 01:13 PM

Pelican Crossings
 
On 2013\06\15 11:32, JNugent wrote:
On 15/06/2013 02:34, wrote:
On 15/06/2013 01:35,
wrote:
In article ,
() wrote:

Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing
signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian
crossing signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that
because of the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb
filaments, thus meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the
labour involved in changing them?

All new installations use LEDs so that is a diminishing problem if it
exists
at all.


And the old ones? Because here in London the green pedestrian crossing
phases turn off, rather than flash.


Could this be due to the differences between proper Real Lamps
(incandescent ones) and the newer Pretend Lamps which have very poor
performance just when turned on or off and are of limited value for
signalling purposes for that reason?


Except that modern traffic lights are LEDs which have excellent response
times and are therefore perfect for signalling.

Recliner[_2_] June 15th 13 01:20 PM

Pelican Crossings
 
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:13:55 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2013\06\15 11:32, JNugent wrote:
On 15/06/2013 02:34, wrote:
On 15/06/2013 01:35,
wrote:
In article ,
() wrote:

Hello,

I saw this about pelican crossings and the associated crossing
signals.

BTW, I've noticed for a while now that the green on pedestrian
crossing signals no longer flash flash, but rather go dark. Is that
because of the stress that the flashing signal puts on the bulb
filaments, thus meaning more money expended for bulbs, plus the
labour involved in changing them?

All new installations use LEDs so that is a diminishing problem if it
exists
at all.


And the old ones? Because here in London the green pedestrian crossing
phases turn off, rather than flash.


Could this be due to the differences between proper Real Lamps
(incandescent ones) and the newer Pretend Lamps which have very poor
performance just when turned on or off and are of limited value for
signalling purposes for that reason?


Except that modern traffic lights are LEDs which have excellent response
times and are therefore perfect for signalling.


Indeed, and the effect is very obvious with the many road vehicles
(even buses) that have LED indicators. They really do switch on and
off instantly compared to the old incandescent bulbs. The next
Mercedes S Class will ditch incandescent bulbs entirely, using nearly
500 LEDs instead, thus saving power, performing better and largely
eliminating the need to replace failed bulbs.

Roland Perry June 15th 13 03:30 PM

Pelican Crossings
 
In message , at 14:20:02 on
Sat, 15 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked:
The next Mercedes S Class will ditch incandescent bulbs entirely, using
nearly 500 LEDs instead, thus saving power, performing better and
largely eliminating the need to replace failed bulbs.


But I'm sure that should any of those LEDs fail, the bill will bring
tears to the owner's eyes.
--
Roland Perry

Recliner[_2_] June 15th 13 03:48 PM

Pelican Crossings
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:20:02 on
Sat, 15 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked:
The next Mercedes S Class will ditch incandescent bulbs entirely, using
nearly 500 LEDs instead, thus saving power, performing better and
largely eliminating the need to replace failed bulbs.


But I'm sure that should any of those LEDs fail, the bill will bring
tears to the owner's eyes.


Undoubtedly, but at least the chances of that happening are remote. If the
LEDs survive the guarantee period, they'll probably outlast the rest of the
car.


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