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BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Four hour long 'live' programmes (though presumably with much
pre-recorded content) about the operations of Heathrow are on BBC2 at 8pm from Monday to Thursday this coming week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg Hopefully should be of interest - there's certainly enough raw material at one of the world's busiest airports. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 11:45:48 +0100, Mizter T
wrote: Four hour long 'live' programmes (though presumably with much pre-recorded content) about the operations of Heathrow are on BBC2 at 8pm from Monday to Thursday this coming week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg Hopefully should be of interest - there's certainly enough raw material at one of the world's busiest airports. Yes, and the team they have on it are all reasonably serious presenters, so hopefully it won't be anything like the telegenic character docusoaps that have previous been based in Heathrow and Luton (that focused mainly on passengers who'd forgotten their passports, etc). NATS has been tweeting about it for a few weeks now, and so seems to be fully behind it. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Recliner wrote:
hopefully it won't be anything like the telegenic character docusoaps that have previous been based in Heathrow Seeing more of the operations side of Heathrow would be good, but I have to say I thought the original Airport wasn't half bad. Stuart (Animal Control), Anita (VIP Services), the VIP photographers... |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:21:39 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote: Recliner wrote: hopefully it won't be anything like the telegenic character docusoaps that have previous been based in Heathrow Seeing more of the operations side of Heathrow would be good, but I have to say I thought the original Airport wasn't half bad. Stuart (Animal Control), Anita (VIP Services), the VIP photographers... Yes, that was a lot better than the easyJet series based in Luton. But it still didn't have nearly as much as I'd have liked on the airside or operations. Do you remember the Air Canada ground purser (I forget his official title) who featured in a few episodes? He once sorted out my pre-selected seat which had been wrongly (but deliberately) occupied by another passenger. I wonder how many of those regular characters still work there? |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Recliner wrote:
Yes, that was a lot better than the easyJet series based in Luton. The interesting thing about that one is that many of the staff who featured in it still work there, and are recognisable - but perhaps not quite as young :) I guess they're a good employer. Certainly, unlike another airline I'm sure everyone knows of, they seem generally to be cheerful and helpful. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply. |
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Neil Williams wrote:
Recliner wrote: Yes, that was a lot better than the easyJet series based in Luton. The interesting thing about that one is that many of the staff who featured in it still work there, and are recognisable - but perhaps not quite as young :) I guess they're a good employer. Certainly, unlike another airline I'm sure everyone knows of, they seem generally to be cheerful and helpful. But how many of the airport staff actually worked for easyJet itself? I though most worked for the ground handling agent, Menzies, despite wearing eJ uniforms. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Recliner wrote:
But how many of the airport staff actually worked for easyJet itself? I though most worked for the ground handling agent, Menzies, despite wearing eJ uniforms. Fair point, "they" included both EZY and the agents. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply. |
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Neil Williams wrote:
Recliner wrote: But how many of the airport staff actually worked for easyJet itself? I though most worked for the ground handling agent, Menzies, despite wearing eJ uniforms. Fair point, "they" included both EZY and the agents. Of course, it could be that even agency staff enjoy working with EZY as opposed to certain other low cost airlines. EZY does seem to be a likeable organisation for both its customers and staff, including agents. The only person who appears no longer to like it is Stellios (who wants dividends he can invest in his other companies, not growth). |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Mizter T wrote:
Four hour long 'live' programmes (though presumably with much pre-recorded content) about the operations of Heathrow are on BBC2 at 8pm from Monday to Thursday this coming week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg Hopefully should be of interest - there's certainly enough raw material at one of the world's busiest airports. This is the hashtag for the programmes: #airportlive |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Mizter T wrote:
Four hour long 'live' programmes (though presumably with much pre-recorded content) about the operations of Heathrow are on BBC2 at 8pm from Monday to Thursday this coming week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg Hopefully should be of interest - there's certainly enough raw material at one of the world's busiest airports. Well, I thought it was really good. I know a lot about flying, and still learned a lot. They also had live access to the control tower, which was pretty impressive. And I liked the way Dallas was trying out the First class suite on an SIA plane on live TV with the passenger possibly watching the programme live from the departure lounge. I also think they wove the recorded segments in with the live action very smoothly. I only spotted one error, when Anita Rani said that the runways had to be longer for the A380 -- that's one of the few things that didn't need modifying, as A380s don't need longer runways than other long haul jets. I wonder how much warning Kate Humble had that she'd be standing in for Dan Snow? I don't think she's an aviation geek, so must have had to bone up quite a bit. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
On 17/06/2013 21:41, Recliner wrote: Mizter T wrote: Four hour long 'live' programmes (though presumably with much pre-recorded content) about the operations of Heathrow are on BBC2 at 8pm from Monday to Thursday this coming week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg Hopefully should be of interest - there's certainly enough raw material at one of the world's busiest airports. Well, I thought it was really good. I know a lot about flying, and still learned a lot. They also had live access to the control tower, which was pretty impressive. And I liked the way Dallas was trying out the First class suite on an SIA plane on live TV with the passenger possibly watching the programme live from the departure lounge. I also think they wove the recorded segments in with the live action very smoothly. I only spotted one error, when Anita Rani said that the runways had to be longer for the A380 -- that's one of the few things that didn't need modifying, as A380s don't need longer runways than other long haul jets. I wonder how much warning Kate Humble had that she'd be standing in for Dan Snow? I don't think she's an aviation geek, so must have had to bone up quite a bit. Good to hear it was up to scratch - I'll be catching up on the programmes later. Wasn't there some sort of adjustment to the LHR taxiways or apron that had to be made to (better?) accommodate the A380. That might have got muddled up with the runway itself. What became of Mr Snow (junior)? |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Mizter T wrote:
On 17/06/2013 21:41, Recliner wrote: Mizter T wrote: Four hour long 'live' programmes (though presumably with much pre-recorded content) about the operations of Heathrow are on BBC2 at 8pm from Monday to Thursday this coming week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg Hopefully should be of interest - there's certainly enough raw material at one of the world's busiest airports. Well, I thought it was really good. I know a lot about flying, and still learned a lot. They also had live access to the control tower, which was pretty impressive. And I liked the way Dallas was trying out the First class suite on an SIA plane on live TV with the passenger possibly watching the programme live from the departure lounge. I also think they wove the recorded segments in with the live action very smoothly. I only spotted one error, when Anita Rani said that the runways had to be longer for the A380 -- that's one of the few things that didn't need modifying, as A380s don't need longer runways than other long haul jets. I wonder how much warning Kate Humble had that she'd be standing in for Dan Snow? I don't think she's an aviation geek, so must have had to bone up quite a bit. Good to hear it was up to scratch - I'll be catching up on the programmes later. Wasn't there some sort of adjustment to the LHR taxiways or apron that had to be made to (better?) accommodate the A380. That might have got muddled up with the runway itself. What became of Mr Snow (junior)? Yes, many changes had to be made for the A380, except to the runway length. The plane needs a wider space around taxiways and also larger radius corners. It also needed modified, wider spaced gates with more gangways and lounge space. I suspect the pressure of live TV got Anita muddled. They just said that Dan Snow couldn't be there because of a family emergency. Kate Humble seemed to have been drafted in at very short notice, and admitted that she doesn't normally like airports. She's certainly no plane spotter, and she'd only just learned how to distinguish a 747 (she's probably a lot better at wildlife than plane spotting). But she still managed to do all the live interviews pretty well (Dan's recorded segments still featured). |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
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, at 15:41:04 on Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: I wonder how much warning Kate Humble had that she'd be standing in for Dan Snow? I don't think she's an aviation geek, so must have had to bone up quite a bit. About the only aviation thing she did was identify a 747, which isn't that difficult. As for her overall tenor, "over-excited" doesn't even begin to describe it. I found the swapping between live and recorded segments poorly managed, with often only a change of clothes revealing which was which. Most surprising revelation, that BA's chief Pilot had never been up that[1] control tower before. I'd expect that someone in his position would make more of an effort to build bonds between the various professions at work. [1] He said he'd been up the one it replaces. -- Roland Perry |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:41:04 on Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: I wonder how much warning Kate Humble had that she'd be standing in for Dan Snow? I don't think she's an aviation geek, so must have had to bone up quite a bit. About the only aviation thing she did was identify a 747, which isn't that difficult. As for her overall tenor, "over-excited" doesn't even begin to describe it. Isn't that her normal style? I found the swapping between live and recorded segments poorly managed, with often only a change of clothes revealing which was which. I thought that part was fine, but found the turning round of Virgin and BA flights slightly confusing, as the two were mixed together. It might have been clearer if they'd just done one, and showed it in more detail. I suppose they filmed both, and felt obliged to use both so as not to annoy the other -- it might have taken quite a lot of negotiations to get access, and it might have looked odd if they then didn't use the footage. Most surprising revelation, that BA's chief Pilot had never been up that[1] control tower before. I'd expect that someone in his position would make more of an effort to build bonds between the various professions at work. [1] He said he'd been up the one it replaces. Yes, that surprised me too. I assume that few outsiders go up the tower itself, as visitors can hardly socialise with the working controllers. One hopes that senior pilots do meet their ATC counterparts somewhere where they can actually discuss things (I don't suppose controllers take jump seat rides, either). He may also have been to Swanwick, where many more controllers work. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
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, at 14:34:33 on Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: As for her overall tenor, "over-excited" doesn't even begin to describe it. Isn't that her normal style? I have no idea. I've never seen her before. The closest I have, is perhaps Anneka Rice and her helicopter race. Most surprising revelation, that BA's chief Pilot had never been up that[1] control tower before. I'd expect that someone in his position would make more of an effort to build bonds between the various professions at work. [1] He said he'd been up the one it replaces. Yes, that surprised me too. I assume that few outsiders go up the tower itself, as visitors can hardly socialise with the working controllers. One hopes that senior pilots do meet their ATC counterparts somewhere where they can actually discuss things (I don't suppose controllers take jump seat rides, either). They should do. Both trades should observe the people they are working with so closely on a day to day basis, in their natural environment, as part of their basic training. He may also have been to Swanwick, where many more controllers work. It's possible, but with LHR being BA's home hub, and him being one of their most senior reps, you'd think he'd try to get around a bit more. -- Roland Perry |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 14:34:33 on Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: As for her overall tenor, "over-excited" doesn't even begin to describe it. Isn't that her normal style? I have no idea. I've never seen her before. The closest I have, is perhaps Anneka Rice and her helicopter race. Most surprising revelation, that BA's chief Pilot had never been up that[1] control tower before. I'd expect that someone in his position would make more of an effort to build bonds between the various professions at work. [1] He said he'd been up the one it replaces. Yes, that surprised me too. I assume that few outsiders go up the tower itself, as visitors can hardly socialise with the working controllers. One hopes that senior pilots do meet their ATC counterparts somewhere where they can actually discuss things (I don't suppose controllers take jump seat rides, either). They should do. Both trades should observe the people they are working with so closely on a day to day basis, in their natural environment, as part of their basic training. He may also have been to Swanwick, where many more controllers work. It's possible, but with LHR being BA's home hub, and him being one of their most senior reps, you'd think he'd try to get around a bit more. -- Roland Perry Actually I think you'll find the controllers can request familiarisation flights in jump seats. As one might expect it was much easier prior to 9/11 but it is still available. Swanwick will organise visits, but only for professionals. Bear in mind he only answered what he was asked so you have no real idea of where he may have visited over the years. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
In message , at 23:04:09 on
Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Graham Harrison remarked: Bear in mind he only answered what he was asked so you have no real idea of where he may have visited over the years. So perhaps he chats with the air traffic controllers in the canteen? But we are pretty sure he's never been up the tower before. -- Roland Perry |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 23:04:09 on Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Graham Harrison remarked: Bear in mind he only answered what he was asked so you have no real idea of where he may have visited over the years. So perhaps he chats with the air traffic controllers in the canteen? But we are pretty sure he's never been up the tower before. Not been up the new tower, yes. But he may have had regular meetings in the offices below. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:10:11 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: Most surprising revelation, that BA's chief Pilot had never been up that[1] control tower before. I'd expect that someone in his position would make more of an effort to build bonds between the various professions at work. How often do train drivers go and visit the signalmen at work? -- Spud |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:04:54 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:34:33 on Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: As for her overall tenor, "over-excited" doesn't even begin to describe it. Isn't that her normal style? I have no idea. I've never seen her before. The closest I have, is How can you have never seen her before? She's been virtually ubiquitous on the BBC for about 5 years. They should do. Both trades should observe the people they are working with so closely on a day to day basis, in their natural environment, as part of their basic training. But they don't work with them closely - they may exchange a few sentences at most during a departure and thats it. The people the pilots work most closely with are the rest of the crew. -- Spud |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
In message , at 09:54:18 on Wed, 19 Jun
2013, d remarked: But they don't work with them closely - they may exchange a few sentences at most during a departure and thats it. There's the haggling for a departure slot, the taxi-ing, and at the other end, landing. En-route they talk too. -- Roland Perry |
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BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:08:20 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 09:54:18 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, d remarked: But they don't work with them closely - they may exchange a few sentences at most during a departure and thats it. There's the haggling for a departure slot, the taxi-ing, and at the other end, landing. En-route they talk too. More to Swanwick than the LHR ATCs. I'm not sure who they haggle with for departure slots -- probably it has more to do with congestion on the airways and the destination airport, so it may not be Heathrow Controllers they speak to. I think once they have their slot, the local tower's job is to help them get to the take-off point on time. |
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:09:24 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 09:50:45 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, d remarked: Most surprising revelation, that BA's chief Pilot had never been up that[1] control tower before. I'd expect that someone in his position would make more of an effort to build bonds between the various professions at work. How often do train drivers go and visit the signalmen at work? I don't know, but considering how long it takes to learn to be a driver, I'd hope they spent a few days with a signalman to get a feel for how the other half lives. These days, aren't the signallers more likely to be people in a large windowless centralised signalling centres which are much like Swanwick? I can't imagine many drivers visit such centres, or even if they do, they won't spend a few days working in front of the array of large computer monitors. At best, they may just be shown round once. |
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In message , at 11:22:34 on
Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: How often do train drivers go and visit the signalmen at work? I don't know, but considering how long it takes to learn to be a driver, I'd hope they spent a few days with a signalman to get a feel for how the other half lives. These days, aren't the signallers more likely to be people in a large windowless centralised signalling centres which are much like Swanwick? Yes, they are. But even more important that drivers get a feeling for what happens there. I can't imagine many drivers visit such centres, or even if they do, they won't spend a few days working in front of the array of large computer monitors. At best, they may just be shown round once. Then that's very sad. I'm a great believer in understanding what's going on around you, and being interested in the jobs of people who affect you directly, in the way signallers and ATC do (for drivers and pilots). -- Roland Perry |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:25:33 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 11:22:34 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: How often do train drivers go and visit the signalmen at work? I don't know, but considering how long it takes to learn to be a driver, I'd hope they spent a few days with a signalman to get a feel for how the other half lives. These days, aren't the signallers more likely to be people in a large windowless centralised signalling centres which are much like Swanwick? Yes, they are. But even more important that drivers get a feeling for what happens there. I can't imagine many drivers visit such centres, or even if they do, they won't spend a few days working in front of the array of large computer monitors. At best, they may just be shown round once. Then that's very sad. I'm a great believer in understanding what's going on around you, and being interested in the jobs of people who affect you directly, in the way signallers and ATC do (for drivers and pilots). Equally, do signallers have cab rides (or sim sessions)? Or do drivers spend any time in maintenance depots or train factories/rebuilders? And how much time do pilots spend seeing how their planes are built and maintained? Or do ATC officers have sim sessions? I suspect the answer is a negative in each case. |
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In message , at 12:40:39 on
Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: I'm a great believer in understanding what's going on around you, and being interested in the jobs of people who affect you directly, in the way signallers and ATC do (for drivers and pilots). Equally, do signallers have cab rides (or sim sessions)? Or do drivers spend any time in maintenance depots or train factories/rebuilders? And how much time do pilots spend seeing how their planes are built and maintained? Or do ATC officers have sim sessions? I suspect the answer is a negative in each case. As pilots are directly responsible for doing a visual engineering inspection of their planes before every take-off, I sincerely hope they have quite a good understanding of how they are built and maintained. That's probably the most important 'crossover skill' on your list, but all the others should be done to some extent or another. -- Roland Perry |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
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Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:50:45 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, d remarked: Most surprising revelation, that BA's chief Pilot had never been up that[1] control tower before. I'd expect that someone in his position would make more of an effort to build bonds between the various professions at work. How often do train drivers go and visit the signalmen at work? I don't know, but considering how long it takes to learn to be a driver, I'd hope they spent a few days with a signalman to get a feel for how the other half lives. I know one of each that seem to spend a lot of time taunting each other on twitter. In between discussions of Tea and Cake. -- Mike Bristow |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:40:39 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: I'm a great believer in understanding what's going on around you, and being interested in the jobs of people who affect you directly, in the way signallers and ATC do (for drivers and pilots). Equally, do signallers have cab rides (or sim sessions)? Or do drivers spend any time in maintenance depots or train factories/rebuilders? And how much time do pilots spend seeing how their planes are built and maintained? Or do ATC officers have sim sessions? I suspect the answer is a negative in each case. As pilots are directly responsible for doing a visual engineering inspection of their planes before every take-off, I sincerely hope they have quite a good understanding of how they are built and maintained. That's probably the most important 'crossover skill' on your list, but all the others should be done to some extent or another. It's more than just the visual inspection. Now that flight engineers are long gone, pilots also have to do a certain amount of mechanical and electronic trouble-shooting in the air, obviously helped by computer systems and their colleagues at base. For example, in that recent case of a BA A319 that had damage to both engines when the unlatched cowls flew off, the pilots had to make some critical immediate decisions. Luckily, their decisions were spot-on, probably helped by a decent understanding of what was going on to their stricken plane. |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:54:18 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, d remarked: I've never seen her before. How can you have never seen her before? She's been virtually ubiquitous on the BBC for about 5 years. "Springwatch, Lambing Live, Countryfile" - I've not watched any of those. And, er, one or two others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Humble#Programmes Many are scientific and quite a few live, so I guess she was a suitable last-minute replacement for the presumably better-prepped Dan Snow. But I notice she's getting better with each edition, and is now noticeably less excited by every factoid. I think the other presenters had weeks of prep and pre-recording their segments, so she's not done badly to have to handle much of the live work with no background in this area and little prep. |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
In message
, at 19:14:47 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Recliner remarked: "Springwatch, Lambing Live, Countryfile" - I've not watched any of those. And, er, one or two others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Humble#Programmes Apart from "Who do you think you are" (which doesn't really count, and I haven't seen that episode) none of those programmes are ones I've watched. And yes, I did often watch Tomorrows World, but 25 years ago! Digressing, I once thought about buying Judith Hann's house, which was on the market about 20 years ago, although I never met her in person. -- Roland Perry |
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:14:47 -0500
Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:54:18 on Wed, 19 Jun 2013, d remarked: I've never seen her before. How can you have never seen her before? She's been virtually ubiquitous on the BBC for about 5 years. "Springwatch, Lambing Live, Countryfile" - I've not watched any of those. And, er, one or two others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Humble#Programmes Many are scientific and quite a few live, so I guess she was a suitable last-minute replacement for the presumably better-prepped Dan Snow. But I If she cut down on the expresso before she went on air she'd be a damn good presenter. She can certainly keep it together a lot better than others who've tried. Though for over the top done-a-line-of-coke-off-camera style of hyper presenting you can't really match jason bradbury or back in the day, johnny vaughan. -- Spud |
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August West wrote:
The entity calling itself Recliner wrote: And how much time do pilots spend seeing how their planes are built and maintained? I don't know about BA, but when I worked for Air france, all staff on executive management track (which included senior air crew) were trained in a common way. And that included knowledge of, and visits to, the extensive maintenance facilities at Roissy. Given that Air France has a safety record that would shame a third world airline (and if they were a third world airline instead of France's flag carrier would probably be banned from European skies,) with particular emphasis on pilots who don't know how to fly but are too proud to admit it, and appalling Crew Resource Management skills (aka teamwork,) that is hardly a ringing endorsement. |
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Clank wrote:
August West wrote: The entity calling itself Recliner wrote: And how much time do pilots spend seeing how their planes are built and maintained? I don't know about BA, but when I worked for Air france, all staff on executive management track (which included senior air crew) were trained in a common way. And that included knowledge of, and visits to, the extensive maintenance facilities at Roissy. Given that Air France has a safety record that would shame a third world airline (and if they were a third world airline instead of France's flag carrier would probably be banned from European skies,) with particular emphasis on pilots who don't know how to fly but are too proud to admit it, and appalling Crew Resource Management skills (aka teamwork,) that is hardly a ringing endorsement. Very true; I can think of at least four AF crashes that were entirely preventable. For the first time in decades, I have an Air France flight booked for later this year, and am concerned by its poor safety record; I'm flying to a former French colony, and there are few other options. I felt safer on Air Koryo (which *is* banned from the EU). |
BBC2 "Airport Live" from Heathrow
Mizter T wrote:
Four hour long 'live' programmes (though presumably with much pre-recorded content) about the operations of Heathrow are on BBC2 at 8pm from Monday to Thursday this coming week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg Hopefully should be of interest - there's certainly enough raw material at one of the world's busiest airports. I just came across this story of how ATC in New York handled a tricky situation safely and professionally (but which was sensationalised into a 'near miss' in the tabloids): http://www.nycaviation.com/2013/06/c.../#.UcStd8O9KSM |
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