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The Only Living Boy in New Cross February 1st 04 01:39 PM

Hayes (Kent) line
 
Does anyone know anything about any proposals for the future of this
line? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the section from
Elmers End to Hayes was nearly closed a few years ago and only kept
open because of residents' protests. I'm just asking 'cos I'm
considering moving there and don't want to suddenly be without a train
service!

Patrick

Aidan Stanger February 1st 04 03:35 PM

Hayes (Kent) line
 
The Only Living Boy in New Cross wrote:

Does anyone know anything about any proposals for the future of this
line? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the section from
Elmers End to Hayes was nearly closed a few years ago and only kept
open because of residents' protests. I'm just asking 'cos I'm
considering moving there and don't want to suddenly be without a train
service!

You don't say what you mean by "a few years ago" but I suspect it was
before the idea of converting the Addiscombe branch to tramway had taken
off.

Now there's nowhere else for the trains to go except Beckenham Junction,
and the TOC has decided that all trains on the normal timetable should
serve Hayes and not Beckenham Junction, ITYF the line's future is
secure!

CIG_BIG_CIG February 2nd 04 08:20 PM

Hayes (Kent) line
 
(Aidan Stanger) wrote in message ...
The Only Living Boy in New Cross wrote:

Does anyone know anything about any proposals for the future of this
line? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the section from
Elmers End to Hayes was nearly closed a few years ago and only kept
open because of residents' protests. I'm just asking 'cos I'm
considering moving there and don't want to suddenly be without a train
service!

You don't say what you mean by "a few years ago" but I suspect it was
before the idea of converting the Addiscombe branch to tramway had taken
off.

Now there's nowhere else for the trains to go except Beckenham Junction,
and the TOC has decided that all trains on the normal timetable should
serve Hayes and not Beckenham Junction, ITYF the line's future is
secure!


Not now the SRA control SET!! All trains will now go to/from Cannon
Street with NOTHING to Charing Cross, not even in the peaks! Looking
at the other cuts, the medway valley line having 2 of its stations
reduced to 1 train PER WEEK, a lot of stations getting cuts in
service, it all indicates to me the SRA basically want to close down
the whole SET!

juvenal February 3rd 04 11:42 PM

Hayes (Kent) line
 

"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
m...

Not now the SRA control SET!! All trains will now go to/from Cannon
Street with NOTHING to Charing Cross, not even in the peaks! Looking
at the other cuts, the medway valley line having 2 of its stations
reduced to 1 train PER WEEK, a lot of stations getting cuts in
service, it all indicates to me the SRA basically want to close down
the whole SET!


Do you have any further info on this? It will certainly make a big
difference to my own journeys.



The Only Living Boy in New Cross February 4th 04 08:31 PM

Hayes (Kent) line
 
"juvenal" wrote in message ...
"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
m...

Not now the SRA control SET!! All trains will now go to/from Cannon
Street with NOTHING to Charing Cross, not even in the peaks! Looking
at the other cuts, the medway valley line having 2 of its stations
reduced to 1 train PER WEEK, a lot of stations getting cuts in
service, it all indicates to me the SRA basically want to close down
the whole SET!


Do you have any further info on this? It will certainly make a big
difference to my own journeys.


There was a proposal some time ago for lots of services to terminate
at Cannon Street, and generally regularise services, so that instead
of stations having many different possible destinations (e.g. trains
from Lewisham can go to Cannon Street, Blackfriars, Charing Cross or
Victoria), they would only have one destination all day. The Hayes
and Greenwich lines were all going to terminate at Cannon Street. No
idea what became of this proposal, though; I didn't realise it was
still live until I saw that post. It might also have had something to
do with Thameslink 3000-if-you're-lucky.

Patrick

Darryl Chamberlain February 7th 04 09:05 AM

Hayes (Kent) line
 
(The Only Living Boy in New Cross) wrote in message . com...

There was a proposal some time ago for lots of services to terminate
at Cannon Street, and generally regularise services, so that instead
of stations having many different possible destinations (e.g. trains
from Lewisham can go to Cannon Street, Blackfriars, Charing Cross or
Victoria), they would only have one destination all day. The Hayes
and Greenwich lines were all going to terminate at Cannon Street. No
idea what became of this proposal, though.


All Greenwich line (stopping) trains run to Cannon Street during
Mon-Sat daytimes - something I was dead set against, but getting away
from the two-track squeeze over Borough Market actually results in a
more reliable service. Admittedly, it's not much good if you need
Waterloo or the West End, but you can change at London Bridge there
are decent tube connections at Cannon Street/Bank (if you remember to
walk to/from Mansion House on Saturdays).

The Hayes line is, like the Greenwich line, one of the Overground
Network pilot lines (
http://www.overgroundnetwork.com) so I'd imagine
it's future is secure.

Darryl

juvenal February 8th 04 04:01 PM

Hayes (Kent) line
 

"The Only Living Boy in New Cross" wrote in
message om...
"juvenal" wrote in message

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
m...

Not now the SRA control SET!! All trains will now go to/from Cannon
Street with NOTHING to Charing Cross, not even in the peaks! Looking
at the other cuts, the medway valley line having 2 of its stations
reduced to 1 train PER WEEK, a lot of stations getting cuts in
service, it all indicates to me the SRA basically want to close down
the whole SET!


Do you have any further info on this? It will certainly make a big
difference to my own journeys.


There was a proposal some time ago for lots of services to terminate
at Cannon Street, and generally regularise services, so that instead
of stations having many different possible destinations (e.g. trains
from Lewisham can go to Cannon Street, Blackfriars, Charing Cross or
Victoria), they would only have one destination all day. The Hayes
and Greenwich lines were all going to terminate at Cannon Street. No
idea what became of this proposal, though; I didn't realise it was
still live until I saw that post. It might also have had something to
do with Thameslink 3000-if-you're-lucky.

Patrick


Thanks Patrick! You aren't, by any chance, a luminary of a certain newspaper
talkboard?




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