Journey planner having a fit
 

This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is
suspended, otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains from
LST/KGX to MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.
--
Roland Perry

Journey planner having a fit
 

In message , at 16:20:33 on
Thu, 26 Jun 2014, Paul Corfield remarked:
This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is
suspended, otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains from
LST/KGX to MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.

I suspect it has got its knickers in a twist.

The TfL weekly E mail does not say there is any engineering work on
the tube on the Sub Surface lines through Kings Cross. Only the Met
is affected out at Amersham which has no relevance to your journey.
The Picc and Vic are not affected through F Park.

However there is a reduced National Rail service between F Park and KX
on Sunday

That's the Thameslink junction commissioning again I suppose.

The obvious suggestion is LST and walk (it's half as far as Fenchurch
St!)

Actually, the 4 mins LST-FST is completely wrong, it's 11 minutes.

and Thameslink also seems to be suspended across the central
area. It looks like Journey Planner is trying v hard to send you via
National Rail lines and only resorting to the tube as a last resort.

Not really, the second route has only one National Rail leg versus three
TFL, in London.

Of course, an even sillier thing is that it says you can do those trips
using just one ticket (Cambridge to London Terminals), which I very much
doubt.
--
Roland Perry

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Which journey planner?

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is
suspended, otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains
from LST/KGX to MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.

Why not just walk from Liverpool St to Moorgate? I was going to.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 16:20:33
on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, Paul Corfield remarked:
This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is
suspended, otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains from
LST/KGX to MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.

I suspect it has got its knickers in a twist.

The TfL weekly E mail does not say there is any engineering work on
the tube on the Sub Surface lines through Kings Cross. Only the Met
is affected out at Amersham which has no relevance to your journey.
The Picc and Vic are not affected through F Park.

However there is a reduced National Rail service between F Park and KX
on Sunday

That's the Thameslink junction commissioning again I suppose.

The obvious suggestion is LST and walk (it's half as far as Fenchurch
St!)

Actually, the 4 mins LST-FST is completely wrong, it's 11 minutes.

and Thameslink also seems to be suspended across the central
area. It looks like Journey Planner is trying v hard to send you via
National Rail lines and only resorting to the tube as a last resort.

Not really, the second route has only one National Rail leg versus
three TFL, in London.

Of course, an even sillier thing is that it says you can do those
trips using just one ticket (Cambridge to London Terminals), which I
very much doubt.

I can't reproduce your lot, even with the TfL Journey Planner, Roland. it
offers the 0728 to the Cross, then H&C/Circle/Met or the 0732 to LST and
walk.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

In message , at 12:32:53
on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
I can't reproduce your lot, even with the TfL Journey Planner, Roland. it
offers the 0728 to the Cross, then H&C/Circle/Met or the 0732 to LST and
walk.

NRES, yesterday, and still doing it today.
--
Roland Perry

Journey planner having a fit
 

In message , at 12:03:25
on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Which journey planner?

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is
suspended, otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains
from LST/KGX to MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.

Why not just walk from Liverpool St to Moorgate? I was going to.

I will, but I'm boggled by the incompetence of the journey planner.
--
Roland Perry

Journey planner having a fit
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is suspended,
otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains from LST/KGX to
MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.
--
Roland Perry

Yet another pointless attempt to break the system. Any normal traveller uses
the journey planner to find train times from Cambridge to London, sees the
best option is to Kings Cross, and checks a tube map to see that from there
it is 3 stops to Moorgate (Northern or Met/Circle as you prefer). If you
want more info TfL's planner tells you its 6 minutes either route and fine
on Sunday.

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
12:32:53 on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
I can't reproduce your lot, even with the TfL Journey Planner, Roland. it
offers the 0728 to the Cross, then H&C/Circle/Met or the 0732 to LST and
walk.

NRES, yesterday, and still doing it today.

Oh I see. I gave up on NRES years ago.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
12:03:25 on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Which journey planner?

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is
suspended, otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains
from LST/KGX to MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.

Why not just walk from Liverpool St to Moorgate? I was going to.

I will, but I'm boggled by the incompetence of the journey planner.

Now I know it's NRE's I'm not.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

In message , at 17:13:15
on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
I can't reproduce your lot, even with the TfL Journey Planner, Roland. it
offers the 0728 to the Cross, then H&C/Circle/Met or the 0732 to LST and
walk.

NRES, yesterday, and still doing it today.

Oh I see. I gave up on NRES years ago.

I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because the
Sunday service from Ely has let me down).
--
Roland Perry