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Old July 6th 14, 12:46 PM posted to cam.misc,uk.transport.london
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In message , at 06:01:57
on Sun, 6 Jul 2014, remarked:
Given the likely size of the crowds, I'm not expecting them to lose
any sleep about access to shops like those.

The crowds will be spread out along a great enough length to allow

that.

I really doubt that. There were 230k in Leeds to see the start, it's
going to be packed in WC1.


The Bridge St frontage is almost the only one with any shops between Tower
Hill and the finishing line. I think they might just manage to allow
movement along their frontage.


Given that's it's such an exceptional site, isn't it more likely they
won't have put in place a special parallel-barriered solution?

Actually, the main exit from the Westminster Tube station is a much more
important asset to protect.

Later... I'm not sure what to make of this somewhat ambiguously worded
missive from TfL:

"Please be advised that some areas along the route will be
closed to the public for safety reasons and key locations, such
as the sprint in Epping, Parliament Square area and the finish
at The Mall in St James's Park, which are expected to be busy."

Does that mean these "busy" areas have the public excluded?

But also:

"Westminster Tube station - will be exceptionally busy between
12:00 and 18:00, and for safety reasons will be exit and
interchange only during these times. Crowd and safety barriers
will be in place along certain sections of the route. After the
event, customers located on the 'river side' of the race route
are advised to walk to Waterloo station (via Westminster Bridge)
until 17:00, and use other nearby stations after 17:00.
Customers located on the 'station side' of the race route are
advised to walk to Piccadilly Circus and Leicester Square
stations (via Whitehall and Trafalgar Square)"

Which suggests that Whitehall will be open to pedestrians. However it's
noticeable they don't suggest walking backwards along the route to
Embankment (Circle Line) which is closer.

Maybe because of:

"Please note that Embankment station is expected to be extremely
busy after 15:45. To avoid queues customers are advised to take
a short walk to Waterloo station (via the Golden Jubilee
Bridges) until 17:00. After 17:00 you are advised to the take
the short walk to either Leicester Square or Piccadilly Circus
stations"
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In message , at 06:01:57
on Sun, 6 Jul 2014,
remarked:
Given the likely size of the crowds, I'm not expecting them to lose
any sleep about access to shops like those.

The crowds will be spread out along a great enough length to allow
that.

I really doubt that. There were 230k in Leeds to see the start, it's
going to be packed in WC1.


The Bridge St frontage is almost the only one with any shops between
Tower Hill and the finishing line. I think they might just manage to
allow movement along their frontage.


Given that's it's such an exceptional site, isn't it more likely they
won't have put in place a special parallel-barriered solution?

Actually, the main exit from the Westminster Tube station is a much
more important asset to protect.


Protecting that is probably easiest by protecting the whole arcade under
Portcullis House. That would allow access to the building.

Later... I'm not sure what to make of this somewhat ambiguously worded
missive from TfL:

"Please be advised that some areas along the route will be
closed to the public for safety reasons and key locations, such
as the sprint in Epping, Parliament Square area and the finish
at The Mall in St James's Park, which are expected to be busy."

Does that mean these "busy" areas have the public excluded?

But also:

"Westminster Tube station - will be exceptionally busy between
12:00 and 18:00, and for safety reasons will be exit and
interchange only during these times. Crowd and safety barriers
will be in place along certain sections of the route. After the
event, customers located on the 'river side' of the race route
are advised to walk to Waterloo station (via Westminster Bridge)
until 17:00, and use other nearby stations after 17:00.
Customers located on the 'station side' of the race route are
advised to walk to Piccadilly Circus and Leicester Square
stations (via Whitehall and Trafalgar Square)"

Which suggests that Whitehall will be open to pedestrians. However it's
noticeable they don't suggest walking backwards along the route to
Embankment (Circle Line) which is closer.

Maybe because of:

"Please note that Embankment station is expected to be extremely
busy after 15:45. To avoid queues customers are advised to take
a short walk to Waterloo station (via the Golden Jubilee
Bridges) until 17:00. After 17:00 you are advised to the take
the short walk to either Leicester Square or Piccadilly Circus
stations"


Unsurprising I suppose, being on the route and all.

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Most of the schools near the route down near the river are shut
tomorrow. Ours is open but they are not doing lessons as not enough
kids can get back as the access road will be shut off after 10 am.

E.

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eastender wrote:
Most of the schools near the route down near the river are shut tomorrow.
Ours is open but they are not doing lessons as not enough kids can get
back as the access road will be shut off after 10 am.

Do you know if they're expecting huge crowds of spectators like Yorkshire
has seen over the weekend?
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, at 16:48:35 on Sun, 6 Jul 2014, Recliner

remarked:
Do you know if they're expecting huge crowds of spectators like Yorkshire
has seen over the weekend?


Yes they are (eg see the tube station information here):

https://www.tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tour...or-information
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